06-05-2012, 12:35 AM #613
what everyone with brain and can function normally dont know is that morten,park and yap have the power like what park and li yong bo do.
it was like people who believe earth is square ask people who believe earth is not square to proof why earth isn't square
06-05-2012, 01:21 AM #614
Do think that if tan kim her is head coach of china team can china be as they now?
06-05-2012, 02:30 AM #615
06-05-2012, 02:43 AM #616
Of course,he's not perfect,he's only human. What we want is to learn,adopt and adapt what we think is good and suitable, discarding what we think is bad or unsuitable. Importing wholesale or imitating what he's done provided we know what it really is from the inside not just seen from the outside,simply won't work, a recipe for failure, plus BAM is unlikely to give him a free hand ...in which case you're right to suspect he will do much worse than his predecessors. Li Mao tried thinking he could copy over what little or much he's learnt in China and we all know the result. But Li Mao is Li Mao, LYB is LYB.
Anyway, LYB won't go anywhere, he's done so much for China and achieved so much in his life,he's probably planning his retirement now,setting up that Badminton Academy in Dongguan is one of it. Just my 2-cents.
Ahh, Zhao Jianhua, every time someone mentions his name...he is absolutely one of a kind !
06-05-2012, 05:00 AM #617
To add , if ideology is an issue,then few other countries would accept any Chinese coach/player of any age. Besides, they went because they were interested in advancing their badminton career not spreading ideology.
Take Denmark,for example,she has an ex-China coach for 22 years, Zhang Liangyin,producing the likes of Poul-Erik Hoyer Larsen, Peter Rasmussen, Camilla Martin, Tine Baun and Peter Gade who all paid tribute to him. Don't forget,he went there at a time when ideology mattered even more than today. I believe,you and I know,in today's China,who really talks about ideology, much less badminton players and coaches. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php/97858-Zhang-Lianying-A-Chinese-coach-behind-Danish-Badminton
Indonesia overplayed the ideology card, forbade Tang Xianhu from coming back, much to her detriment.
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06-05-2012, 08:39 AM #618
06-05-2012, 09:43 AM #619
I never respect tyrants or dictators. And the system that encourages it. Spoilers.
06-05-2012, 11:16 AM #620
Me too, for a freedom-loving and independent-minded person like me, I can never tolerate tyrants and dictators,even benevolent ones. However, I do admire strong,capable and,most importantly,wise leaders, something akin to the Philosopher King but not exactly in the Platonic sense as in 'The Republic'.
Sadly,tyrants are everywhere,in all societies and organizations , in different layers of society,including the family, and they come in various guises and forms. Even in America, the freest country in the world, big corporations are regarded by many as private tyrannies. Never judge a book by its cover, a so-called democratic government can also turn dictatorial, a so-called democratically-elected leader privately a tyrant or dictator. Even religious leaders can be dictators.
Just as you don't judge a man by what he says of himself but look at his actions and true intentions,similarly you don't judge a socio-political and economic system by its name or what it claims to represent. Human nature is the same everywhere and all kinds of people are found in every system. In the best of us,there is some evil,in the worst of us,some good. We are still very far off from the millenium, a hoped-for period of joy,serenity,prosperity, and justice - perhaps never to be attained in this mortal world. Ultimately,we are each responsible for our own thoughts,words, and deeds. Peace, Loving-kindness and Wisdom.
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06-05-2012, 12:48 PM #621
Good for China,bad for the rest of the world.
Sorry, Gopichand,nobody can learn from China or LYB specifically. But,surely,we can still learn something from the best in the world.
To me,adhering to the party ideology is beside the point,even BAM has its ideology, and LYB is more than just a facilitator,otherwise there would at least be a handful of others who can easily do his job.
I believe LYB brings something special,unique as his contribution to improve and enhance the system,that's why after 19 years he's still at it and going strong.
06-05-2012, 10:06 PM #622
We know which leaders are bad. That is a sad case due to money and power.
The sad case is these tyrants are messing up badminton. I couldn't be bothered by things outside badminton. We must get rid of these parasites.
If everyone keeps on cursing him or calling him names, he will quit. The media will also help to expedite it faster.
Camon, let's have a good Olympic spirit. Fair for all.
06-05-2012, 11:06 PM #623
Extreme, you talking about LYB or Nadzmi? Or both?
06-05-2012, 11:25 PM #624
06-05-2012, 11:54 PM #625
But he said to go after 5 to 6 years, which is way too long. In fact, it has expired.
06-06-2012, 12:51 AM #626
For those who wants to read in English...
He mentioned - "“Perhaps a change is needed within the BAM management because we haven’t really progressed much in the past 10 years"
I say the change is way long OVERDUE!!!
06-06-2012, 01:51 AM #627
06-06-2012, 01:54 AM #628
hahaha...the exit door for Nadzmi is slowly opened..just a matters of time.
06-06-2012, 01:58 AM #629
Who want to leave BAM when there good money to be made? Sponsorship from ASTRO, Maxis, Maybank, Bernas.
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