Is BAM going in the right direction?

**SibugiChai** · 09-20-2012, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

Yes, WMC requested to switch coach to Misbun. WMC official reason was she wanted to up her game even higher as her fitness not up to standard needed. She wanted to post greater challenge for 2008 OG. Later(I think the next year) BAM asked WTM to go to BJSS because the chief coach for BJSS left to go back China(forgot his name). That BJSS coach had been in Msia more than 10 years.
Plus, by then Wong Choong Hann had decided to retire from BAM to go independent after 2008 OG.

While at BJSS, WTM brought up the standard of the junior MS - Loh WS, Iskandar's batch.

i think wtm was pretty upset when wmc decided to follow misbun

**nokh88** · 09-20-2012, 04:05 AM

So, based on some of the posts above, WTM is a rather good coach.

**danielwong** · 09-20-2012, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by nokh88

So, based on some of the posts above, WTM is a rather good coach.

of course lar
he helped INA alots
see their WS results recently
we got very good future now as WTM is back!!!

**nokh88** · 09-20-2012, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

The executive director of the Malaysian Employers Federation, Shamsuddin Barden, was quoted in today's news expressing great disappointment about the high percentage of Malaysian graduates with unacceptable standard of English. Most of such graduates had passed their SPM English but would not be considered employable.
This is quite shocking and confirms what my best Malay friend, who is a director and major shareholder of a Bumiputra company, has told me time and time again. He even told me that an office messenger of a large company in the 1970s would put these new graduates to shame.
To a large extent, we can see some proof here! Do you agree?

Originally Posted by taneepak

What are you trying to say?

Originally Posted by taneepak

Perhaps you can use Bahasa Malaysia.

Do you really have to do this? We are in a badminton forum, not English language forum.

**eaglehelang** · 09-20-2012, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by nokh88

So, based on some of the posts above, WTM is a rather good coach.

Sure lah. Same as Yap Kim Hock, from coaching senior level, then go to BJSS, sup sup water for him.Then INA should be different experience, as I know, INA was 1st time WTM coach outside Msia. WTM was Li Mao's assistant coach when Li Mao was in Malaysia, that's why Li Mao asked WTM to go over INA.

Our WS were sad when WTM left. Chi Sanrong gives the impression he couldnt fit in with the setup in BAM, including whatever politics they are playing. BJSS would suit Chi better

**limsy** · 09-20-2012, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by nokh88

Do you really have to do this? We are in a badminton forum, not English language forum.

erm
in psychology
there is a theory: hindsight bias.
and our uncle tan practice this throughout his life.

**undeadshot** · 09-20-2012, 05:04 AM

It's just sad that someone had to resort to personal attacks simply because no one listens to him anymore...

**Aikachan** · 09-20-2012, 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by undeadshot

It's just sad that someone had to resort to personal attacks simply because no one listens to him anymore...

No offence but it was really funny when he tried to lure limsy to a debate

**nokh88** · 09-20-2012, 09:03 AM

Courtesy of The Star :

BAM to appoint supremo to oversee their new 12-year plan

By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: One head is better.

This is the conclusion reached by the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) when the exco, headed by Datuk Nadzmi Mohd Salleh, created an important post – a project manager – to oversee their new 12-year plan for the future.

And the good news is that the project manager, aka supremo, will be given the full authority to run the programmes.

The BAM have not decided on the candidate for the job but it will not be a foreigner thus hiring South Korean Park Joo-bong is out of the question. Those in the running are Kwan Yoke Meng and Wong Ah Jit and they may even look for others to take up the job.
The project manager will oversee the country’s three new squads – elite and 2016, 2020 and 2024 – spanning three Olympic cycles.
The 2020 squad will comprise the Bukit Jalil Sports School (BJSS) players while the 2024 squad will consist of players from 9-14 years old from the states.
The BAM have appointed Rashid Sidek and Tan Kim Her as the singles and doubles chief coaches for the elite and 2016 squads and both will be answerable to the project manager.
The project manager will also be given the task to appoint the chief coaches for the 2020 and 2024 squads.
BAM president Nadzmi said that the role of the project manager would be clearly defined.
“We need a really good manager – one who can organise and strategise.
“He must have strong managerial skills and the ability to work well with others. He also needs the technical expertise,” said Nadzmi.
“There are three basic elements. The project manager will be given clear responsibilities of his job scope so that he will not have to change the goal posts all the time. And he will be given the authority to fulfil his responsibilities. He, however, will have to be accountable for all his actions.
“The way he manages should ensure that all the squads will be inter-related and linked. He will have to ensure that all analyses and coaching programmes will be documented so that it could be passed on.
“We did not have competent people to fulfil those responsibilities in the past.
“We did not have a perfect fit but with the appointment of a project manager, we hope our programme will be executed well.”
Malaysia had a similar set-up before when Morten Frost Hansen was appointed the national coaching director and Yap Kim Hock the chief coach but both did not have full say in running the programmes.
Yesterday, Nadzmi, however, reiterated that coaches had always been given the power to decide in BAM.
When pointed out that there had been several decisions on players which was made by the management and not the coaches, the exco admitted that it was a mistake and promised to go through the right processes this time around.

"And the good news is that the project manager, aka supremo, will be given the full authority to run the programmes."

But both the singles and doubles head coach have been appointed. What if those two are not who the Project Manager wants? And he has to take the rap if these two are incompetent.

**limsy** · 09-20-2012, 05:30 PM

i dont believe the new supremo will get full authority

**SibugiChai** · 09-20-2012, 06:44 PM

rashid has been there for like zillions years yet still no new single players

**maxout** · 09-20-2012, 07:32 PM

As long as there is a POLITICIAN (or his wife) sitting at the top/helm of BAM together with rich businessman as its President/CEO ... FORGET IT !!

Same problem with ALL MALAYSIAN SPORTS !

**ngkt67** · 09-20-2012, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by maxout

As long as there is a POLITICIAN (or his wife) sitting at the top/helm of BAM together with rich businessman as its President/CEO ... FORGET IT !!

Same problem with ALL MALAYSIAN SPORTS !

no choice, that is Malaysia...!!

**Pakito** · 09-20-2012, 08:56 PM

Another 1 more on this side, guess who is still standing alone on his side?

Zolkpes stated that if BAM is interested in hiring South Korean Park Joo Bong, NSC is open to discussions with the association.

"I was BAM secretary when Joo Bong was here and he is quite efficient. However, he hardly had any authority and BAM had more often supported the players than him. This must change and the chief coach or coaching director must call the shots."

Read more: BADMINTON: Lost cause, says Zolkples - Badminton - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/sports/badmint...#ixzz2746ddUuB

***Cheung*** · 09-20-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Pakito

Another 1 more on this side, guess who is still standing alone on his side?

Zolkpes stated that if BAM is interested in hiring South Korean Park Joo Bong, NSC is open to discussions with the association.

"I was BAM secretary when Joo Bong was here and he is quite efficient. However, he hardly had any authority and BAM had more often supported the players than him. This must change and the chief coach or coaching director must call the shots."

Read more: BADMINTON: Lost cause, says Zolkples - Badminton - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/sports/badmint...#ixzz2746ddUuB

Probably BAM wants one more year to try out the pairing of KKK and TBH. They reckon Cai Yun will retire. Jung Jae Sung will stop playing. So who will be the barriers to the WC doubles crown then?

**george@chongwei** · 09-21-2012, 05:25 AM

Lee yong dae/Ko sung hyun, boe/morgensen, setiawan/ahsan???

**Pakito** · 09-21-2012, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

i dont believe the new supremo will get full authority

Your far too smart to be outwitted aren't you?

I thought about this too. The answer that always come back to me is, 'smoke screen, smoke screen, put them on like sunscreen, so you can do whatever you want in the light of day and never be seen'.