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    Misbun will be the BEST MAN to inject some RADICAL CHANGES - mohican hairstyles for all players will be a great start

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    Don't you just cringed with disappointment when you see so many up and coming junior players showing promising capabilities while Malaysia is still in a state of standing still? Is it because of the inertia is so great and heavy now? Is it because the focus and attention is misdirected? WHAT is happening to the ladies, the WS and WD? Have BAM thrown in the towel long ago after depending on WMC? All it takes it to look at the juniors from Thailand and China and you'd cringed and bite your nails, Malaysia.

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    after success in junior,those junior direct get the chance to play in senior tournament
    the sum of tournament of tai and ratchanok is more than the whole bam ws squad.
    lee yong dae play in senior once he succeed in junior.
    mas wjc? wait until 19 then join bam,then train 2 years,where is lee yong dae,zhangnan/chaibiao,jongjit/bodin?
    bam fall behind for at least 10 years in term of managing and view/vision

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    What is really going on with the grassroots? Is the development (if any) progressing or regressing? Are the grassroots levels being monitored, if so by who? Isn't it equally important that the one who spots needs a keen eye like MFrost or Tang? Can you send a coal miner to look for oil and gas? When the market is out of fish, isn't prudent to go to sea and fish some more? Likewise, when the talents are running out, don't they go down to fish at the grassroots? Who is doing the spotting at junior levels? I hope it's not the same fella who said what he said of LCW when he was trying to get thru the system that works on 'knowing someone who knows someone'. If the grassroots have failed and underdeveloped, the fact that they are not seeing eye to eye with private clubs does not help either. At this rate, we can say goodbye to malaysian rankings in less than 5 years.

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    Looking at grass root level, there are many promising juniors coming out under self/family fundings. We can see these talents from local club/school tournaments. What is sad to see is many good ones as they mature through the years, just dropped out from the vagaries of life with changing priorities. It is not easy to remain in the mainstream as these requires monumental sacrifices not only from the player but also from the family who supports the young player. I am not sure if BAM sees any value in this or they can play a more proactive role to encourage/support/guide/coach/sponsor these exceptional talents instead of foregoing the opportunity?

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    Our mas juniors at 17 to 18 are doing fine actually,

    winning wjc singles and doubles in the last few years

    but after that their opponents seem to progress faster

    Mas could have a bigger and better grass root

    if BAM is solely behind the so called talent scouting.

    Instead, it's been handled by the education department.

    Refer to post 1120

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    After DL won a SS and CWF get into semi of a SSP, BAM thinks that they are super world class standard and wont bother to send them to GPG events.

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    I hope BAM can do the right things, start creating champions for the future instead of just creating another one hit wonders.

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    Default Talent Scouters are the missing link

    BAM is blind, oblivious to the fact that they are lazy, wait for other coaches (LCW's first coach at BM) do the work, then they just get the name. They say you can't get the quality training that they give you elsewhere, you can't get the physiotherapy and sports science and nutrition they provide. They are a lazy bunch. All they do is use the $$$ to buy this and buy that. Who don't know how to use money including the drug addict down the street?

    There are more than 5 thousand private badminton courts in the country and out of this, 50-60% of the owners also had the foresight to utilize the courts for coaching students. The owners are the coaches and the racket stringers themselves. The owners are the floor sweepers and the ones who pocket the cash. Their students are fantastic and eager to learn. These students are in their early Form 1s to 5s. In fact many former state players are also such owners, making a living out of a sport they love. And the country treats them like 'forgettable's drifting into oblivion.

    BAM has been dependent on PE teachers who they themselves are sometimes relief teachers of chemistry, biology and history and what have you. In fact, if you know someone who know someone in the Ministry of Education, you are given a green light and a letter of approval to distribute flyers to thousands of students (this is just one school) stating that for a RM50 monthly fee, you can enroll in a badminton coaching programme. (real coaches out there, take note). I have seen these fat chubby coaches who can't even execute a backhand service teaching by the hundreds! So you see, there are many ways to grassroots mushrooming. It's just the quality. Back to the private badminton hall owners, I think this is where the 'talent scouter's should be sent. At least it's better than what Chin Chai is doing being a 'land surveyor' counting the tiles at BAM. Don't expect others to do all the work and you get the fame. It's time to get off your lazy chair and channel positive work towards grassroots levels, where it has always been. Malaysian football is going nowhere, hockey I sure don't care, ping pong tables are abundant is schools but nothing has come out of it, sepak takraw? pls. I've seen ministers playing badminton with a coy 'silat' style. Smack my forehead. It's time we go down to the docks and take a look at the fishing boat to catch the future salmons and tunas. Without these fishes, how can you expect a future again where we remember how our ex patron of badminton, Siti Hasmah, clapping her hands and jumping up and down like a choir mistress conducting 'Malaysia Boleh' in the true sense of the word? Now our current patron is only an emotionless, botox-filled, limelight and attention grabber.
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    disagree
    we have talent.
    but not good enough on management

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    It is about mindset, whether they want to do something for their country or doing something for themselves. The outcome will be very much different. System also play some roles on Athlete's success. Take a look at CBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    disagree
    we have talent.
    but not good enough on management
    Correct, limsy. A lot of talents, but they are not being utilized 100%, due to the system and failure to inspect them on talents scouting. In my humble opinion, the best thing to do are improving talent scouting teams, persuading a lot of exhibition matches to discover those talents, creating a good system on training center so that every athletes will have equal opportunities for being trained, sharpen up, and sent overseas for competition, and last but not least the people's mindset on the governing bodies have to be changed, they have to put nation's best as their first and only priority, it is really crucial since they are the governing bodies.

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    The Star Online >
    Saturday December 8, 2012
    BAM cut ties with experienced coach Yap after 12 long years
    By Rajes PAul
    Out of a job: Yap Kim Hock is the first prominent local coach to be axed by BAM this year." height="170" width="200"> Out of a job: Yap Kim Hock is the first prominent local coach to be axed by BAM this year.
    KUALA LUMPUR: Former international Yap Kim Hock’s 12-year roller-coaster coaching career with the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) is finally over.
    Kim Hock’s contract as the Bukit Jalil Sports School’s (BJSS) doubles chief coach has not been renewed.
    Kim Hock and BAM confirmed the news but neither would divulge the reasons for the decision, thus raising speculation that something must have gone wrong between the two parties.
    It could be either that BAM were not happy with his work ethics or his performance as a coach.
    This year, none of Kim Hock’s charges won any medals at the World Junior Championships. But then, none of the boys’ singles or girls’ singles players delivered at the world junior either.
    Could it then be linked to rumours about Kim Hock being frequently absent from training sessions?
    Kim Hock is the first prominent local coach to be axed this year. Another BJSS coach, Tan Shao Rong was the only other one whose contract was not extended.
    The decision also ended any hopes Kim Hock had of being one of the candidates for BAM’s national coaching director’s post.
    “I received a letter on Nov 30, stating that my two-year contract will not be renewed,” said Kim Hock, who has proven to be the most successful coach in BJSS after producing three straight world junior champions – Chooi Kah Ming-Ow Yao Han in 2009, Yao Han-Yew Hong Kheng (2010) and Nelson Heg Wei Keat-Teo Ee Yi (2011).
    Asked why his contract was not extended, Kim Hock said: “I better not make any statements now. Give me a few days to look into this matter.”
    The Muar-born Kim Hock, who won the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games silver medal with Cheah Soon Kit, began his coaching career in 2000 as the national doubles coach.
    His big break came in 2004 when he was named the chief coach but was demoted to BJSS doubles chief coach after the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games.

    http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...726&sec=sports

    There will be more drama

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    well done
    looks like bjss will end up like bam.
    no more wjc.
    politic politic politic

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    well done
    looks like bjss will end up like bam.
    no more wjc.
    politic politic politic
    2-3 months left the politics in BAM will be vanish once and for all only if the 'rakyat' willing to change the you know what...!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngkt67 View Post
    2-3 months left the politics in BAM will be vanish once and for all only if the 'rakyat' willing to change the you know what...!!
    well
    bam is government related. change-the-you-know-what might start to change the environment a little bit,but the root of problem is still there

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    The question now is who is replacing Yap Kim Hock ?

    It's a good guess the sack could be related to the recent wjc and asian school case
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