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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1975 View Post
    Yea that's very true. I choose to buy gosen racket instead of yonex racket because I want to try out something new. Yonex is too popular and many people are using them. Gosen got good quality rackets but the price is one of the factor that people do not want to try gosen racket
    ASAIK, their rackets' shafts are pretty famous amoung Japanese badminton society. Stiff enough to provide sufficient stability, while can be flexed to give you the extra punch. As mentioned before, i cannot feel that much, it might due to my insufficient technique even though i consider myself intermediate to advanced level. Another reason might be i hadn't played with other hi-end rackets. I don't know how it is like when using other rackets.

    Might be trying some later, probably the MX80 or even the TC700.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1975 View Post
    Is it actually true that they are going to release a Black Issen? I still think that the red one is way better. Dont know if we can trust that site
    I don't know a lot about Rakuten but it's like ebay of Japan. The site is fine, but not sure if the seller is trustworthy.

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    MX80 is also a good racket. It will probably be the next racket I am going to get

    Ahhh.. so its like ebay of Japan lol.. cool..

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    Yea, MX80 is getting an almost perfect from BCers, even those who doesn't like stiff rackets. That surprises me a lot. It seems like it's a racket, might not for everyone, but for most of the players with solid fundamentals.

    However, it's a struggle to me. MX80 seems like a better doubles' racket than a singles one. The shiden, from my experience, is also kind of suitable for doubles, singles as well. It's even-balance, might even be slightly head-light if you use thick grip. It's fast through the air. So, I am really think of the necessity of getting another doubles racket, as i play mostly singles with my friends.

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    I like to put only overgrip on racket, coz I dont really like thick grip. What kind of feel will a thin grip on shiden give? Will it feel abit heavier than using a thick grip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1975 View Post
    I like to put only overgrip on racket, coz I dont really like thick grip. What kind of feel will a thin grip on shiden give? Will it feel abit heavier than using a thick grip?
    I am using a thin overgrip wrapping over the original grip. It feels very light already. I am using Zymax62 which is very thin strings, it might feel a little bit heavier if you use thicker strings.

    I guess a thick grip may even make the racket "feels" lighter as it will become more head-light. Both of my RSL X5 white and Gosen Ryoga Shiden are 3U, and i use the same overgrip. The X5 feels a lot heavier as it's more head-heavy. Even my girlfriend thinks my Shiden is a lot lighter.

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    Haha.. what a coincidence.. I used to own RSL x5 white as well.. It feels heavy and uncomfortable for me to use. I dont know why I cant play well with me so I sold it to get Shiden lol.. I got the same feeling as what you said

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1975 View Post
    Haha.. what a coincidence.. I used to own RSL x5 white as well.. It feels heavy and uncomfortable for me to use. I dont know why I cant play well with me so I sold it to get Shiden lol.. I got the same feeling as what you said
    haha we have similar taste don't we?
    Past: RSL X5 white
    Present: Gosen Ryoga Shiden
    Future: Victor MX80

    I think the X5 is fine, as a racket that I play with when i am tired. I strung it at 24/26, should go higher, but hat's already pretty high for a lady players. My GF thinks it's feel cool so i do not intend to sell it. The downside to me is not the weight, i am fine with this apparent heaviness, but the flex. It's too flex for me, but it makes things easier when i play with beginners and teach them. So, i still keep it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfatsiu View Post
    haha we have similar taste don't we?
    Past: RSL X5 white
    Present: Gosen Ryoga Shiden
    Future: Victor MX80

    I think the X5 is fine, as a racket that I play with when i am tired. I strung it at 24/26, should go higher, but hat's already pretty high for a lady players. My GF thinks it's feel cool so i do not intend to sell it. The downside to me is not the weight, i am fine with this apparent heaviness, but the flex. It's too flex for me, but it makes things easier when i play with beginners and teach them. So, i still keep it.
    Haha yea we do

    X5 is a good racket but it probably just doesn't suit me because of the flex. Its too flex for me as well, with the combination of head heavy which makes me harder to use. I strung it at 27 lbs which is probably another reason why it is hard to use. I usually strung at 25lbs. I prefer a stiffer and lighter racket such as shiden. And X5 is really cool, and I gave a few thoughts before selling it lol, and I finally sold it =="

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    actaully gosen no so expensive in some country , like thailand u can get tenbu shiden around 3700 bath
    around 125 us dollar, gosen really produce good quality racket. if u feel x5 white is too soft maybe should try
    x5 gold it is more stiff and look cool too. In malaysia we can get x5 around rm 300 only
    around us dollar 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1975 View Post
    Haha yea we do

    X5 is a good racket but it probably just doesn't suit me because of the flex. Its too flex for me as well, with the combination of head heavy which makes me harder to use. I strung it at 27 lbs which is probably another reason why it is hard to use. I usually strung at 25lbs. I prefer a stiffer and lighter racket such as shiden. And X5 is really cool, and I gave a few thoughts before selling it lol, and I finally sold it =="
    Haha but i have to tell you one thing, Shiden is not as addictive as some of the other powerful rackets. You might end up seeking another racket like me lol. I want to try the Yonex Voltric 80 too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfatsiu View Post
    Haha but i have to tell you one thing, Shiden is not as addictive as some of the other powerful rackets. You might end up seeking another racket like me lol. I want to try the Yonex Voltric 80 too....
    Really lol? Why is it not so addictive? >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by ycsia View Post
    actaully gosen no so expensive in some country , like thailand u can get tenbu shiden around 3700 bath
    around 125 us dollar, gosen really produce good quality racket. if u feel x5 white is too soft maybe should try
    x5 gold it is more stiff and look cool too. In malaysia we can get x5 around rm 300 only
    around us dollar 100
    Really?? It cost me around 150USD to get a Shiden, a difference of 25USD.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfatsiu View Post
    Really?? It cost me around 150USD to get a Shiden, a difference of 25USD.....
    Where do you get your shiden for around 150USD? I bought it from MBS and its expensive =="

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1975 View Post
    Really lol? Why is it not so addictive? >.<
    People are likely to be addicted because of the feel/power of a racket.

    In terms of feel, i think it is somewhat lacking. It could be a consequence of using a hard and thin string, but I just don't find it lively. Though i have mentioned before that drop shots and net plays are easy and they feel good, i seriously think it's just a muscular memory of feel, not from the impact and the vibration of racket.

    And power wise, it's definitely not the most powerful racket out there. It cuts through the air very fast but the ball isn't blowing past everything. Of course, it's already more powerful than a lot of rackets, but not yet addictive.

    BTW, a friend of mine captured a video of me when hitting. I found that many of my shots are not right at the centre, this could be a cause of the lack in stunning power. But in my very first impression, i thought i hit the sweetspot everytime, so i said not much time is needed to adjust. It's my fault by saying that, i guess the dull feel makes me feel that i have hit a centered shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason1975 View Post
    Where do you get your shiden for around 150USD? I bought it from MBS and its expensive =="
    I am now visiting Hong Kong, so i bought it at e78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfatsiu View Post
    I am now visiting Hong Kong, so i bought it at e78
    Ahhh.. e78 is a pretty good place to get badminton stuffs... From the site I can see they supply a lot of items. Wish I could go to HK so I can get cheap badminton accessories.. Dont think I will get it for usd150 if include shipping cost lol

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