thick strings vs thin strings, which generates more power?

[flite]

Tension do influence the repulsion and power.

High tension will make the stringbed like a steel board,great hard smashes and hitting sound,easy shuttles control.
but it need more effort to hit the shuttles because of reduced string repulsion (not so easy to bounce)

Low tension will make the stringbed like rubber board,easy to clears.
but it will harder to control the shuttles because of too repulsive.

Durability wise is obvious,thick string is better than thin string.

Thanks flite

No mention mate.

In fact I learned a thing or two from your posting and its nice interacting with a knowledgeable person like you.

Cheers!

[Rivai Zhukov]

No mention mate.

In fact I learned a thing or two from your posting and its nice interacting with a knowledgeable person like you.

Cheers!

Thanks for your support

[amleto]

are the different colour shuttles meaning different speeds?

[Benwilluk]

The shuttles could well be for different speeds. E.g. Mavis blue are faster than the Green and if you used both on the same night in the same hall chances are you would hit the blues further with less effort. Same principle probably applies to the feathers as these come in different speeds.

[Mark A]

Mavis red, blue and green are the fast, medium and slow, respectively.

[JukUx]

i am THINKING its the shuttle speed. If so, does that mean I have to lower my tension or something?

[Mark A]

i am THINKING its the shuttle speed. If so, does that mean I have to lower my tension or something?

Try standing over the baseline and hitting underhand, as far as you possibly can, up the sideline towards the other end of the court - this is a shuttle speed test, but it also gauges the suitability of your string and tension. If the shuttle lands on or within 15 cm of the opposite rear doubles service line, your racket will be set up correctly for that particular venue and conditions.

[urameatball]

i am THINKING its the shuttle speed. If so, does that mean I have to lower my tension or something?

I'll tell you a secret only the pro players know about:
you don't need to change your tension, just adjust how hard you hit, and like magic... the bird will fly the proper distance.

I saw Lin Dan do it once... The bird was fast, so he hit it with less force and WOW. The bird landed in!

And another time, LCW saw a bird was flying slow, so he hit it a little bit harder and WOW! The bird landed exactly where he wanted it to land.

Only the top players know this technique though.

[JukUx]

Mark A
I usually do that for tournaments when I remember too at least :P i'll do it this Sunday to find out haha

urameatball
looool but i did hit with a lot of power :'(

[Rivai Zhukov]

it is depend on your skill and power.
High tension will give you great control,because the stringbed is tight.
repulsion certainly less but the shuttles fly like a bullet (consistent and sharp)
Low tension will give a great repulsion (bouncy stringbed).
We hit the shuttles effortlessly (especially for clears)

to hit hard,your shoulder must be very good and powerful.
(See Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan shoulder)

[Bucsy]

Hi Guys,

After reading this, can i say that in order to generate the same power and control. I play with feather most of the time.
For thicker string say a 0.66mm @ 24lbs, when i change to thinner string say 0.62mm, i should string at a lower tension?
Or when on a thinner string 0.62mm, i string at 24 lbs, when i change to a thicker string, i should string it at a higher tension than 24?

[aiexrlder]

it is depend on your skill and power.
High tension will give you great control,because the stringbed is tight.
repulsion certainly less but the shuttles fly like a bullet (consistent and sharp)
Low tension will give a great repulsion (bouncy stringbed).
We hit the shuttles effortlessly (especially for clears)

can others confirm if this is true? i've heard this a lot but personally i think i hit a lot harder with higher tension than lower until a maximum is reached.

[vajrasattva]

can others confirm if this is true? i've heard this a lot but personally i think i hit a lot harder with higher tension than lower until a maximum is reached.

i think it boils down to definitions.. in english..

and i would think of it in the reverse scenario as described by the post that you have quoted.

the current terminology is to compare between repulsion and hold, where repulsion refers to short contact time and rapid rebound from the string bed, whilst hold, is to allow the for sinking into the string bed creating some energy storage, and increasing the contact time.

higher tension results in a smaller sweetspot, and greater repulsion.
lower tension has larger sweetspots, and has more hold..

sweetspot? -> take a look at the physics here.. http://www.odec.ca/projects/2007/viei7r2/sweetspot.html

[|_Footwork_|]

something to take into account:
i think bg65 loses tension quite a bit quicker then bg80.
so you probably need to string bg65 1-2lbs higher then bg80 to get the same effective (or whatever you wanna call it) tension.

[j4ckie]

can others confirm if this is true? i've heard this a lot but personally i think i hit a lot harder with higher tension than lower until a maximum is reached.

Higher tension means you'll have to have greater racket head speed at the point of contact to get the same power as with a lower tension. While this means you'll have greater control with tighter strings, it'll also cause you to lose power once you get past a certain point.
Most of the time, a tighter string will feel more powerful though as you get better/more feedback and it's more repulsive (i.e. the shuttle will bounce off it more quickly).
Generally speaking, string tension is quite similar to racket shaft stiffness - the stiffer it is, the more potential it has, the softer it is, the easier it is to get power out of it, but the 'limit' is lower (i.e. a very explosive hitter will probably lose power with a soft racket/string as the shuttle will remain on the strings for too long, and the racket won't have returned to it's usual form at the point of contact).

For the thick vs. thin string matter, a thinner string will feel like a thicker string at a higher tension. It'll have more power than a thicker string as it's more elastic, but the drawback is lower durability. If you're an intermediate player who can afford it, playing with 22-24lbs .62 strings will feel like a more powerful 25-28lbs BG80 (slightly less 'solid' feeling though).

From a certain level on, people start to string more for control and a better feeling than for maximum power. Even (or especially) pros - back in 2006-2008, string tensions were generally lower than they are now, and they hit ~20-30km/h faster than they do now...

[Sgt_Strider]

Is there an ideal string for one that mostly play with Mavis 2000 birdies? I figure BG 80 would be ideal regardless of feather or plastic.

[visor]

Is there an ideal string for one that mostly play with Mavis 2000 birdies? I figure BG 80 would be ideal regardless of feather or plastic.

bg80 is too hard feel for any plastic birds for me...

instead i use zm65, 67, vs850 at around 2 lbs less tension than for feathers