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    Originally posted by kwun
    are you missing the fact that you are supposed to switch court again at 8 points on the 3rd game? after that, you will be in the bad court again.
    thanks kwun, i never knew that. I just never see people switch sides in the 3rd game.

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    I think choosing sides depends on what type of player you are. Are you a comeback type player, or do you like being in front and getting a slight lead/psychological advantage? Also, some people take a while to warm up and really get their game in gear (for example: like how kwun describes himself) while others can just start with their pedal to the metal as soon as the game starts.

    I usually play men's doubles with a partner who doesn't play well when behind (he gets rattled/nervous/embarassed), so taking that into consideration, I will choose the good side first. I want to be on the best side to try and win/steal the first game.
    I will also serve first if given the opportunity. My thoughts are that I want to jump out ahead (if I serve first, I get the first opportunity to score).

    There's an old saying in track that some are born lead runners and some are born good finishers (with a good kick). In other words, some try to take an early lead, and try to hold on to the victory at the end (works great if you have a big enough lead!). Others like the challenge of falling a little behind, and it motivates them to work harder and finish with a good kick. I think it's the same with badminton; some like to take an early lead and seem to play better (like my friend in my scenario above). Others play better when they fall a little behind.

    I think this is a consideration when deciding side/serve options- knowing yourself and how you play.

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    I would choose the bad side for the first game because

    (1) I feel it's easier to adjust from a bad side to a good side than the other way around,

    (2) I'm usually a slow starter in a match, so if I'm going to lose that first game, I'd rather it be on the bad side,

    (3) if I lose the first game on the bad side, getting the good side for game 2 is just another reason to be optimistic,

    (4) if the match goes 3 games, I would finish on the good side.

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    Kwun,

    After all those good points. You could consider if the bad court is bad for what conditions - draft, light etc.

    Depending on what type of player you are and how well you adjust to the conditions will affect you choice. It might be more beneficial to try with the poor lights and fight on, knowing you will get a benifit in the second.
    It might be harder having had a good game it the better conditions to adjust to adverse settings that might throw your game.

    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    yeah. that's the interesting part of this poll. there are pros and cons of each one:

    better court first:

    pros: get a head advantage. if the margin is slim and you can take advantage of the better court and wins the first game, then you have a psychological edge.

    cons: if the game is stretched to 3 games, after the 8pt court change, you will be stuck on the bad side for the latter part of the deciding game.

    worse court first:

    pros: you get a better court for the 2nd game and latter part of the 3rd and decider game.

    cons: you lose out on the head advantage on the first game, esp if you are unfamiliar with the gym. if you lose the first game, you have a psychological disadvantage.

    personally, i used to choose the better court, but nowadays, i realized that since i am a slow starter anyway, having to work on the 1st game actually warms me up faster and i will play better on the subsequent games.

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    the way i see it, if you have to take it to 3 sets, you get the better side twice

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    If i know the player is good , i usually get the better side. But if my stamina is up to it and i feel confident and good that time.. i will choose the worse side. Just in case i win in the worse side 1st set.. it will be easier for me to win 2nd set at the better side. Anyway its best to depend on your skills than which side is better.

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    i play mixed doubles and mens doubles
    for the most part now, if i win the toss, ill just take the serve, this is because of the psycological advantage ill get if i could score 1 or more points before the opponent even touches the bird for their serve, if i could get 5 or more on first serve, im in real good shape

    before this though, when i won the toss, i always picked bad side first, besides the obvious reason of switching to the good side at 8 on 3rd set, i did this because after playing and watching many games, i found that well over 50% of the time, the one who wins 2nd set usually wins the 3rd as well, another psycological thing where the winner of 2nd gets pumped and keeps momentum and the loser feels down because they failed to finish it when they had the chance (mental toughness plays a huge role in this)

    and then before that, i used to do the beginner thing and gave the serve to the opponent

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    I alway take the bird, I'm gonna play on both side anyway

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    just a thought that came into my head. uhhh everyones gonna use caps and periods so i will too XD.

    Let's see, in doubles for example. If you choose side, and your opponents choose to receive, you'll have to serve first. I sound like an idiot pointing out everything obvious . Well....if you're serving first in doubles you've got ONE serve to lose. You can talk it out with your partner either to make that serve count for points.....OR you can drag the first rally on. Don't make yourself tired, just take a glimpse of how your opponents play as the rally lasts. Well I don't suggest you do this everytime because if you do your partner will get really fed up lol. I guess by the time you finish the rally you'll pretty much know everything about your playing style. It'll be a bit of a down-side if they catch on to your plan half-way through and start thinking about how you play though.

    Back to the question, I usually pick the good court first. It might give me a slight advantage if I decide to use that method up there. It'll also be nice if you actually win the rally .

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    Doubles i don't see this as big problem, which side to start, but would prefer to receive first to take advnatge of two serve.
    In singles i noticed that my game is stronger at the farside, no matter what, am still working on why i play bad on the near side but for some unknow reaosns to me i won most games when i am playing at farside

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    I do not care at all which end i start...............for me wining or losing can't be altered by this.

    For others maybe, but I don't find any advantage.

    At the stadium I play............I cannot distiguish which end is better.........only some courts are better than others. But the ends are so close in the surfaces stickiness or dustyness.

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    i guess if you are playing in a torney, specially away from home, then you wouldn't know which side is better than the other so its no good thinking that side of the court could be important in wining or losing the game...

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    The reason y i am choosing the better side as i wanna win the first game and give myself a better chance and more confident to play the second set. Worse comes to worst, i will still be on the better side for the first half of the third set and still have the chance to lead before changing court. coz i cant be possibly catch up when i am losing at the third set. I think it is all about mentality. Some ppl can play better after they lose the first game and catch up in the second and third set. But some ppl just can't play under great pressure and the risk to be knocked out. To be honest, i am still new to this sport as i just been playing for less than a year from now. i dont have the mentality to catch later on at this stage.

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    I haven't played in competition for a long, long time (maybe never). But, if I do, I would choose the side that does not have too many spectators facing me in the first game. Cos I get more nervous when too many ppl stare at me. When I settle down, I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    There is definitely a good side and bad side in my gym, caused mainly by poor light distribution and positioning. From one side, if the shuttle is hit to just right heght, it will be "lost in the lights". Luckily, though, the good/bad side effect only occurs in half of our gym as the other portion has decent lighting on both sides of court. But I still normally choose good side if I win toss because if I can win the first set, then I will have a psychological boost. However, on the downside, if I lose on the good side, then my confidence will be lowered.

    Former English national player Derek Talbot recommended in one of his books to always choose the bad side first because it will much easier to finish a match on the good side. The way I look at it is, if I lose on the bad side, I can then switch to good side but I will have that first set loss on my mind and thus, lowered confidence level.
    my precise thoughts

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    Just recently I played in my city's zone eliminations at this one school, and the courts were pretty bad there. The lines were pretty much unseeable (those ones that aren't solid, just two parallel lines), and the ends of two courts were right up against the wall with less than a foot to spare. I had to play a round robin on one of the bad courts, and I took the good side first. I was up 8-1 at half, and then we switched sides. I went on to lose 15-13 because my opponent took advantage of the wall being behind me, and that caused me to lose a LOT of points.

    I didn't really care which side I choose prior to this happening, but from now on when I play in school gyms I'll make sure to choose the bad side first because it's easier to come from behind when you know you have the good side for the next game.

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    If i win the coin toss, can i choose to receive first? I don't care much on court side since we change court at 11 on the rubber set.

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