Koo Kean Keat & Tan Boon Heong

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  1. ctjcad

    ctjcad Regular Member

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    KKK's...

    ..early success seems to be similar w/Taufik's early success...let alone all the hypes surrounding both players..;) :cool:
     
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    As Pemuda said, Taufik Hidayat has won the WC, the AG and the OG.
     
  3. ctjcad

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    Yes..

    ..and KKK has conquered 1 out of the 3, so far (actually w/an AE title as well, unlike Taufik);)...Perhaps, like what happened to Taufik in 2004, KKK needs a "jolt" in his baddy career to get his mind & attitude back? Perhaps Rexy highly regards KKK thus we see all of these criticisms. Or maybe Rexy does need to take a leave of absence from the team and see if KKK will come "crawling back" to him (similar to what happened w/Taufik & his coach in 2004, although i know at that time Mulyo was, and still is, Taufik's personal coach and he left under different circumstances)..
     
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  4. Oldhand

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    I can't help agree with chris
    Just posted a similar take here ;)
     
  5. Dreamzz

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    it's all a ruse to give the other pairs a false sense of security and then WHAM!
    OLYMPIC GOLD!
    RM1 MILLION!
    RETIREMENT!

    :)

    or it could just be a lack of determination, hard work and focus ....
     
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    wow, how did i ever miss that post:D
     
  7. george@chongwei

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    1 million also dunno the shuttlers can perfom well or not..
     
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    hmmm ... how about throwing in a Datukship title and some prime Selangor commercial land? ;)
     
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    Pemuda, you're not targetted here. I'm absolutely certain you know what my point is.

    To others who are advocating a healthy dose of money to solve the problem, I hope you can recognize a system-wide, or complex problem, over a simplistic one problem, one solution situation.

    Say that 100 million dollars suddenly appeared in the national treasury to be spent solely on badminton advancement, will Malaysia get the next World Championship trophy?

    What would you spend the money on? Scouting new talents? Scrapping all the current talents? Hiring new coaches? What?

    The problem is: How to lay down the infrastructure toward badminton supremacy? How do we get there?

    Although Pemuda has highlighted the problems, and given out solutions, it has gotten buried as all attention is being washed away by

    "my KKK, pity him"
    "i show support, what else?"
    "never mind lah, a true support, so support"
    "everyone mistake, so KKK mistake, give chance"
    "I know him personally, he no like dat one in real life"
    "I know the real story, but I will not tell you"

    The only thing I can really see that's really relevent to KKK is that he's physically capable of troughing, or reaching the bottom the hill, then scampering up to the top again. The question is: Will he?

    The facilities are there, an uber coach is present, the rewards are present (but prematurely dispensed) and fan idolation is present. So what's missing?

    And further more, since this thread is about Koo Kien Keat and Tan Boon Heong ... what about TBH?

    Is he as talented, more (less) talented, or is KKK "the man"?

    -dave
     
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  10. Oldhand

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    This pair is your regular 'cart and horse'.
    Both Rexy and KKK have said as much themselves.

    Koo Kien Keat is the horse
    Tan Boon Heong is the cart

    The problem relates to where they are now going.

    Is it the horse that's dragging them downhill?
    Or is it that the cart is too heavy for the horse?

    Maybe the cart needs a different horse.
    Maybe the horse needs a different cart.
     
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    The Mind games has just begun... :)
     
  12. X Ball

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    As usual, your thought processes do not allow you to think that there is this possibily which is more likely :D:

    The horse and cart begin to work well together in unison after they have fought each other and learn that one without the other will not win races.
     
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    Well.. it might be the PERSON who is sitting on the CART whipping the HORSE?
    I hope the whole thing will not come crashing down.
     
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    That sounds as cynical as Oldhand.:D
     
  15. ctjcad

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    What happened..

    ..to all the chest thumping, high fiving, wide grinning moments between KKK & TBH??...see pic below from their Macau Open title, late last yr..:confused:...Aaah, those were the moments, esp. for all the KKK's & TBH's supporters...;)

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. eaglehelang

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    Fan idolation is not really present in real life, not amongst most of them, he he.;)

    The suggestions pro & against has been presented many times in the other threads - including the "how do we get there" part. Some of the "experienced" Msian BCers of also know & have good ideas but they have decided to keep mum about it, why? Cos however loudly/repeatedly we present the solutions or ideas in a forum, it would not change things in real life.

    We can discuss till the end of time, NSC, BAM & the new Sports Minister will do what they like anyway. The experts are already discussing it quite often & their statements appear in the media, so often stimes, I get sick of it.
    Anyway,maybe you all in western country lack baddy news, so find the discussions interesting.
    _______________________________________________________________

    Back to KKK/TBH - TBH's take on things appeared in NST & Malay Mail today.
    And also in Sin Chew yesterday, I think.
     
  17. koo_fan

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    I got the idea that obssed fans are sometimes annoying.Sorry.Absolutely annoying.
    Rationale is stil there,though.
    I wont be so dumd till to defend kkk's bigheaded behaviour,partying guy's style etc etc.whatever the issue have posted here.Question is,how sure are we?

    But something u will never understand is that when i have put kkk as someone in my life,I couldnt just say im not his fan bcoz he has changed now.
    Put urself in his shoes.U made mistakes.But will hope majority are still supporting u to do better in future.wont u?

    We are not in showbiz.Stop acting like we are gossiping in a market here.
     
  18. Oldhand

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    Um, my thought processes don't allow me to imagine success where it isn't likely or due.

    A repaired partnership is unlikely to succeed in any great measure.
    Look no further than Martin Lundgaard & Jens Eriksen to see why.

    Koo Kien Keat's & Tan Boon Heong's collective woes are largely of their own making... whether it be about communication, training or commitment.

    The way I see it, the draft horse prematurely believes it is the steed Pegasus!
    Meanwhile, the cart seems all set to be carted off to join another horse ;)
     
  19. koo_fan

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    How sure are u that the repaired kkk/tbh wont make it?
     
  20. Oldhand

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    Um, I said it's 'unlikely'.
    No one would be more pleased than I if they are still able to make it.
     

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