Why are the Women's doubles players not trying to win?

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  1. kwun

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    IOC has no direct power on BWF. they will just defer the proper action to BWF.

    Li Lingwei, btw, was part of the victim of the coup in the 90's that got herself and a bunch of coaches fired from the CBA. and the person behind it is LYB. if anything, she won't be on his side.
     
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    There's no doubt the violation has been committed, the question is "will there any consequence punishment?". IMHO, the Chinese pair should be disqualified for so bluntly disrespect this sport and this disqualification will serve as a warning/guideline for all participants during the remaining of the tournament.
    If no punishment is issue then more OPEN cheating will occur in the future and only hurt this sport on the long run.
     
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    Ask Li Ling Wei being IOC member that question.
     
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    IMO there could be nothing more perverse as if the BWF even only thinks about disqualifying these players. The BWF installs a group system which allows players to take advantage of and later they blame the players for doing so. It's ridiculous!
     
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    Then the circus will go on, this time much open and bolder...CHN Boleh
     
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    Then she should do the right thing...kicking LYB right at the balls will revenge all the past, give a Dairy Queen, err I mean DQ
     
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    Wont' it be interesting to do this kind of implementation ?

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php/115305-new-way-to-counter-match-throwing.

    Or at the least for the time being ALLOWing the Winner of the match (this particular match) to decide what they want to do with that POINTs, whether to take that or give-away.. So that KOREA can give away that point to CHN, and CHN will have to carry those points, thus will negate their effort (of loosing the game) :)
     
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    on the contrary Li Ning Wei will be fuming with the history between she and Li YB
     
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    Unless I read you right, are you saying these 8 girls are not doing what is contrary to OLY spirit and they are right to fix the match. If that is so, you are spot on and we would like to welcome you to our gang of 5.V1Lau, we have company, our gang is growing;)
     
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    Now CY/FHF faces CB/GZ in QF, based on the poor records of CB/GZ against Boe/Mogensen, it was very likely that CB/GZ would have finished behind Boe/Mogensen. I wonder how come CY/FHF didn't try to lose a match on purpose to avoid facing CB/GZ in the QF. And I wonder if LYB dares to ask CB/GZ to give a walkover to CY/FHF.
     
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    Because they know that CB/GZ would not get to the finals anyway

    Better to give FHF/CY a sparring match than lose badly to another country
     
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    no. we should let them all play on and get their medals.
    Two days later in a press conference to the world and taking the medals back, just like the durg cheats before them.

    Therefore no medal for this version of Olympics and will be rubber stamped in history.

    Years later when people look it up and the will find out the reason of no medal in 2012 WD
     
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    Perfect opportunity for revenge and LLW can tell LYB who is boss...and what a timing, give a DQ and hide behind IOC closed door meeting saying it is council decision not hers. Also, this time when this incident blows up in CHN media that the DQ is for fixing match, there will always be people who support fixing (like the gang of 5 in this forum) but I like to see the majority of CHN population supporting and encouraging fix a match.
     
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    Because when Kkk/Tbh lost it's so believable
     
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    Absurd, any system can be abused. Blaming someone knowing that you yourself has done something wrong is a form of defense to justify your doing.
     
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    I don't know about your gang. I'm just speaking for myself. IMO the people who are responsible for the rules are to blame for.

    The olympic spirit? The olympic spirit is long gone. This is a business with big money involved!

    If anything you can blame the players for is that they can't act very well. But the fact that they need to act is clearly not their fault.
     
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    The Chinese pair beat the Koreans in losing the game!
     
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    don't rage so much its not good, this crap happens all of the time, much more of the blame has to do with the system/incentives (situations) players are placed in

    here's an example you guys might be familiar with (mostly those who watch sports like basketball like NBA)

    NBA
    teams are awarded more lottery balls (significant for drafting the upcoming players) the worst record they pose at the end of the season. If two teams are tied in record, both teams would have an incentive to lose as one will get more lottery balls.

    Example these drafts can determine if you get a future star like Lebron or some other player who is not as good.


    Another scenario in the playoffs when determining seeds, ex. 1st and 8th play each other 1st round in playoffs, teams all the time take this system format into account, sometimes throw game so they get X seed.

    I suppose some people are just sooooooo pissed because it was blatant and it that can make it less entertaining.

    LEE CHONG WEI probably could have demolished Lang in 2 sets but it took a third set. Super high rank players often prolong the rally rather than try their 100% best effort when they play the lower ranked players yet we don't condemn them :D.
     
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    Not necessarily, it also can be a protest that the rules make me do things I don't want to!
     
    #160 Ton-Min-Bad, Aug 1, 2012
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