Yonex Arcsaber 11

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  1. Maklike Tier

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    I see plenty of people playing with the Arc10 and enjoying it, but so many people get sucked into the marketing cesspool you see many more people playing with Voltics that you know would be better off with something less head-heavy.

    Victor has been clever with their range by introducing a slew of rackets in the 290-300 range, which is where the ArcSabers should be more prevalent, but in some ways have been a victim of Yonex' own marketing - sacrificing the range for the 'glamour' of the Voltrics.
     
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    Seems to me though that YY have become so successful that it markets itself. It's a bit like Ferrari cars, people will always want to buy them because they have been the pinnacle of performance cars for such a long time. Now there are many other supercars out there that have better performance than Ferrari but are still nowhere near as successful.

    Maybe I'm just an old cynic (well I know I am) but I just think can do anything and still be popular.
     
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    Anybody can tell me the difference between the arcsaber 10pg edition and the arcsaber 11? I am thinking of buying one of these.
     
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    Read through the thread. Everybody seems to be saying they feel the same with the arcsaber 11 being slightly better.
     
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    I am currently using muscle power 99. I am looking for replacement for this. please advise
     
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    Do u think arcsaber 11 is better than arcsaber 10 pg edition ? I am using MP99 too. Looking for replacement.....
     
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    Arc11

    As an advance player, I'm not looking for powerful or head heavy racquet for powerful smashes, instead I'm more looking forward on controls and decent power racquet. After reading all the reviews, I chose this racquet.

    i strung it 24lbs with BG66um, then down to the court.

    Baseline, backhand and flat clearing are effortless, and very easy to generate power, and so much fun on hearing the "boom" sound from the racquet.

    Drop and slice shots are fast and accurate.

    Net shots n trick shots are almost perfect for me, as the controls of this racquet are excellent.

    Defences, .......... NICE and FAST...more on due to the even balanced design.

    Flat driving the shuttle is fast, fast, fast ....very glad on this.

    Smashes are powerful, it may not as power as the head heavy racquet, but good enough to place the shuttle down on the court.

    Im been using this arc11 for abt 2weeks now, I must say...is a very nice racquet. I never try any of the arcsaber series before, but I must said, Arc 11 really gave what I wanted.
     
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    I 100% agree with you. Arcsaber 11 is really a very nice racket. I have bought it last week and tried it 4 hours fo a 2 session games.

    I love it. I love how the racket control......, it is very accurate and I can place the shuttle to where I want. I return the smashes easily. I can drop accurately. Really I love it very much. As for smash, it is on par with my Mp 99 or may be better. I have arcsaber 10 too. They are really different, quite a improvement from arcsaber 10.

    I may buy 1 more Arcsaber 11 for backup.
     
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    I just bought one recently and it is a very nice racket indeed. But I felt that it is a bit different from Arc10. Arc11 is more flexible and lighter than Arc10.

    It is easy to use and maneuver. It can generate a very good speed in double game. Power wise also not bad, I can do a back hand shot effortlessly to the baseline as compared to my other slightly heavy rackets. The smashing power is very good too but it may not be on par with those head heavy rackets, just a slight difference the way I felt it.

    One thing I am still adjusting myself to it, is about the control shot and net shot. It is fast to defend but I got a hard time to place the shuttle to the angle which I used to do it accurately without any problem with my other rackets. Same to drop shot. The shuttle will hit the net or go half court for my opponent to kill me easily. So lifting and placing the shuttle at the net are still lacking for me, maybe due to I am used to the slightly head heavy rackets.

    Arc11 head is lighter and I experienced it in my former Arc Z-Slash also which I have sold recently. I hope I will be getting better using it as I give it more playing time and not ended up selling it.

    Hope to hear more reviews from you all. Cheers! ;)
     
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    Arc 11 is a very nice racket. It does a lot of things very well, as did Arc 10 before that.

    It must be difficult for Yonex to design new rackets, after all they have already desgined so many good ones over the years. I do question at times how much more we can expect from racket technology. After all, since the introduction of full carbon frames in 1980's are we really hitting the shuttle harder or controlling it any better?

    For me the use of the latest materials has not brought about any advances in terms of what we can get from a racket...but there's always hope.

    Paul
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    As a design-type guy, I think there's a lot of innovation that can be used but isn't. The problem is, is that none of this technology is cheap, and when Yonex is happy to sell rackets that cost $20 to make and sell for $200, there's no profit incentive for them.

    If I was Yonex, I'd create a 'Black Ops' design unit, and make some insane rackets in the $3-400 dollar region. Use cutting-edge technology, make completely new designs, or even apply it to the current range and make say a 'Voltric Black Ops' edition or something like that.

    People will pay insane money, it just has to be justified and have a degree of exclusivity about them. Painting a VT80 in a 'limited edition' colour just doesn't cut it, and Li-Ning wanting close to $300 just because Lin Dan might use the same racket doesn't cut it, either.

    There's still heaps of improvements and technology to use, it's just that Yonex prefers to use marketing gimmicks and pro-endorsements to sell rather than actually being cutting edge.

    Nothing of any real value has been added since the Ti-10 (or arguably, maybe even the Cab20).
     
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    Well, i do think that i will ''help'' in a very minimal amount like power, control, durability, speed blah blah blah.

    I think what we actually need...
    i)racket weight
    ii)balance
    iii)stiffness.
    The rest for me are just marketing gimmicks I don't see anything special about technologies like 'sonic boom', 'cs carbon nanotube', 'toughlex' or whatsoever. Or maybe we are just not advance enough to feel that it's working. In my opinion, these technologies make us mentally stronger or achieve ''top form'' for just a short period of time, after a week or two, we'll just perform like how we perform using our ex racket. (excluding the 3 points that i listed out)

    Do you guys agree on this? Please feel free to critic if i'm wrong.
     
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    I like your thinking there...I wouldn't mind a 96-hole AT700/900
     
  14. Maklike Tier

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    If I didn't hate 96 hole rackets so much, I'd say that was a fantastic idea ;)
     
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    On the contrary, I'm a fan of the 96hole design. Nothing beats a Ti-550VS bg66um strung at 30lbs n still give me 2 months string durability easy.....:)
     
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    Who makes the Ti550VS? I'm using an Ashaway Nanolegend 9675/9670... (Mods, my apologies for being off-topic)
     
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    FZ Forza.... made in same factory Ashaway/RKEP albeit with a much heavier swing weight.
     
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    How Arc 11 compare to VT80? Can someone comment?
     
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    Arc11 way better...
     
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    The post in this thread all positive reviews about arc11...when la i will buy his racket..haih...anyobe know the lowest price of this rackets...thanks
     

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