Ratchanok Inthanon - รัชนก อินทนนท์

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  1. nokh88

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    It is now 90% confirm that Ratchanok will withdraw from China SS.


    She injured her back from practice field and couldnt do a full-court practice for two weeks already. She is visitting hospital for therapy.


    have to wait and see if she can recover in time for Japan SS.


    Ratchanok herself said that she wanna play in both tournaments since her SS ranking is not yet qualify for SS final.


    Anyway, it is good for her in the long run not to play while she is injure.
     
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    ..hmm...I think he can come to Intanon's thread :)
     
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    I feel that CHN WS will not dominate very soon. Other than LXR and WYH, the young CHN players are not up to par yet. Other than RI, there are Sindhu, TTY, .Busanan, Carolina Marin, Nozoma who all have great potential.
     
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    you want to abandon yr favorite player thread because of one sentence(in which to me it is joking) :confused::confused::confused: ....come on...
     
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    Interestingly, at least 3 out of 5 mentioned name i.e Busanan, Marin and Nozomi has had a training session with Ratchanok's coach in Thailand.
     
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    I am not with you on this that CHN WS will not dominate very soon.
    From what we seen from CHN WS, it does not take long for the 'young CHN players' to catch up to the seniors. Maybe it is CHN training system/partners, maybe it is the extremely competitive environment in CHN that they are so many gifted players fighting for the 3-4 WS spots that enable CHN to keep producing world class, mentally tough players.
    A CHN WS player has only so many chances to impress LYB/ZN before they are toast. CHN is like a factory that keep finding and producing a steady stream of world class players. Whereas the ROW, if they have a super player, that player has player power status and can have a long career since he/she may be the only 1 that the country has.
    I figure player like WSX will be out soon, the next batch of WS players from names we have not heard of, will be taking over. LXR should be safe and so is WYH, but if they falter, they are out too.
     
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    Aiya...Limsy feelings is hurt...Give him a few days, with laptop in Limsy's lap will travel:D
     
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    TTY and RI are very young, and have room to improve further, that I would bet on if they are stocks. As to Apple and Google, I may have missed the boats betting on their stocks (Apple was trading at $150 when I was recommended to go in but I walked away and we knew it went to $700), but given the price today and tech-stocks-are-as-good-as-today-until-something-new-comes-along, IMO Apple has peaked and will not come back to the USD700 figure, and Google looks very promising but with the unit price today, how to go in and how much room it will go or tank? I am with Warren Buffett, not buy something I am not confident in and personally not buy something that I cannot sleep if the stock tanks.....Hahaha!!!
     
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    The Thai WS coaches really did a great job recently producing a group of young and highly skillful talents like RI, Busanan, Nitchaon, Porntip, ...Prapakamol, .....
     
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    Yup, Pattapol Ngernsrisuk, Udom, and Mr.Xie are one of the force behind.
     
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    How I wish they are Malaysian - not to worry though, China will always be the main challenger
    in Ladies badminton - since they have so many up and coming young players.
    But the days of their complete domination is gone forever.
     
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    'the days of their complete domination is gone forever', I am not sure about the word 'forever' in that sentence. I would think 'for now' to replace 'forever' is more appropriate.
    True CHN 3rd WS single (WSX) is vulnerable, CHN is missing WX. CHN has so many up and coming WS players, like a factory producing WS players at a rate bypassing the ROW.

    So. let's see what the ROW really have in world class WS players that can beat these CHN girls:
    INA: None
    DEN: None
    MAS: None for now, none for a looong time to come unless Tengku can rescue:crying:
    IND: SN, SPV - honestly, they are good, not proven winner.
    Thai - RI (great for beating LXR at home), but the rest are good for now, not great.
    KOR: Sung, Bae - Only Sung can spring a win over CHN top WS player, Bae is good, not great.
    Germany: JS (great, but granny age in baddy)

    That is about it from the Rest of World.
    The thing about CHN is her provincial teams that produce all these great young players. From the recent post regarding new CHN WS coming up, I would think WYH and even LXR would have to be on their toes just in case they are forced into early retirement. Only 3-4 spots are open for CHN WS players, I cannot imagine how competitive it must to represent CHN.
     
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    Probably worth mentioning TTY and the Japanese girls ST and MM are there or there abouts, but I agree with your point.:)
     
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    Agree with you that I forgot to mention JAP WS players and Taiwan's Tai. They are good, young and have room to improve, but to beat the CHN girls especially in major titles including China Open when the CHN girls are so well prepared/trained and wanting to win is difficult. That is why that RI won WC13 in CHN is remarkable, equal to what WMC did when she won CO07 but rated higher since this is WC over CO. But nevertheless, beating the CHN girls in CHN was a huge upset.
     
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    IR WC win over LXR is a huge upset and a great achievement, and having won WJC 3X at this young age is remarkable. The problem for the ROW is she is the only 1 to score a major title in an event that CHN wanted to win too. I like to see her beat LXR again, but I would not bet on that happening. The CHN girls will be prepared for her the next time.

    IND WS players are basically 2 very good players and SPV did upset the CHN girls but until they can beat the CHN girls for a major title that CHN wants to win, I would not go that far to say they are great that I would bet on them to beat the CHN girls in a major title event. Honestly, would you bet real dollars on them facing the CHN girls every time? I would take your bet any time. SPV is young and she can only get better, but would she be better enough to consistently beating the CHN girls, like LCW did against the entire CHN MS squad. Now, LCW is great, WR1 despite CHN aiming a bull-eye target at his back.
     
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    against the entire CHN MS squad! really?
     
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    What I meant is despite CHN targeting Dato (you can add slow birds use, switch of AC, line judging, WO, dragged/tired out Dato in SF to face a fresh CHN player in the final) LCW has played against all the top CHN MS players, and has success and beat all including the LD in SS, except when he played the Legend in a major title event....not the entire CHN MS players in 1 event. If there is an event that a non-CHN player managed to beat almost all the top CHN WS players in 1 single event was WMC in CO07, that night all the ducks line up in 1 row for Miss Wong. And it happened at home in CHN. To this date, no player has ever repeat that feat, correct me if I am wrong.
     
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    I have no doubt it will be more from Ratchanok. If you want to bet I will take it, full amount!!!

    I have watched the WC Final match several times because I want to see it carefully how she withstands LXR momentum and gets herself on the top as the competition goes on.

    My finding is that

    + Firstly, out of 10 points she gets from 12-19 down to win it 22-20 most of them are from her winners and some forced error. She did not get gifted points from LXR unforced error. So it is very certainly that not LXR suddenly play badly but she herself must inject some change into her game. Therefore, with this clue I, next, look for what she did to achieve this and there it is. I found that Ratchanok does change the way she play by attacking more aggressively and with faster speed follow up and that give her the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] game and the match later.

    + Secondly, by doing this, what she has shown is her ability to change the flow of the game. In fact, this is not the first time she does it. At least, she has done similar thing during the match with Tine in Axiata Cup. In that match, Tine riding on the momentum where she beat her nicely in 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] game of All England continued to dominate her completely in the first game. Then Ratchanok changed the way she played and became dominant over Tine and won the match.

    +Thirdly, she possesses plenty of skills, meaning she have more weapons to kill. Even Mr.Steen who seems to be more reclined toward LXR accepts during the 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] game of WC Final match that she is the best technical player and given the name of the player he mentioned as the second best, it can be imply that he think she is the best technical player of all time.

    + Forth, she has solved her stamina problem which is the major cause for her loss in the past. Her club working hard on this issue this year (enable by more funding thru sponsorships), they bring in team, applying science in training and that couples with the natural rising curve on body strength as she turns 18. It starts to show good results. The agility and endurance that you see on WC final match is what you can reliably expect to see in the future because this is the result of scientifically hard working.

    + Last but not least, it is Chinese that convince and believe she is the one. Surprise!!!
    It is Action that reflects thought better than words. Qingdao signed her to play for the club in CBSL in 2012. The crucial point is the fact that Qingdao is the Champion in 2011 edition and looking to defend their title in 2012 and that they already has world Top players like Ma Jin and DuPengYu in their team, signed up Ratchanok is not action of a mediocre team who need to try something to survive but the action of the great team who wants to ensure they will produce the winning result. Beyond that, they not just sign her for 1 year but 3 years-how confident. So, the action that the top Chinese team has put real money on her on the mission to hunt for Chinese Top Badminton League Championships speak for itself very clearly on how Chinese thinking about her….and she does not disappoint them.

    The last word I want to say is that, yes, one will not expect her to win every match but one can expect a glory performance from her overall.

    That’s all I have to say :):):)
     

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