Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

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  1. alana07

    alana07 Regular Member

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    so where are the pitures of the UP, let's have some of them to start the salivating process.....:D
     
  2. what07

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    I just noticed that the max tension for the precision has fallen from 30lbs to now 28lbs on the website. :confused: So did panda break a few rackets with zymax 70 at 32lbs :p
     
  3. DinkAlot

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    Nope, Panda's Precisions are just fine at 32lbs. There have been a few stringers that are confused with the string pattern and there should not be as the Precision utilizes the current, most common string pattern.

    For example check out this completely incorrect string job vs. the correct one:
    -mains are way off
    -extra cross up top
    -extra cross at bottom
    -tie-off at shared grommet

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  4. DinkAlot

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    Oh; and the above incorrectly strung racket was strung by an experienced stringer, one who has over 20 years experience.

    So Panda is wondering what happened; actually Panda doesn't want to know. :eek::p
     
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    OMG. please. OUCH.

    it is like looking at a disfigured human being. it's painful to watch.
     
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    Now thats really terrible stringing...
     
  7. DinkAlot

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    Note: the stringer is not the customer. The customer is a very nice guy, a gentleman; it was his stringer.

    And the stringer was trying to justify himself by saying:

    1) the holes were drilled incorrectly.
    Panda's Reply: the holes are drilled correctly, nothing more to say.

    2) extra string on top and bottom are to minimize string breakage on a mishit.
    Panda's Reply: what's more important, string breakage or racket breakage? The string pattern used by the Precision is tested, tried and true, used by Yonex and every other racket manufacturer . It's used to minimize racket breakage. Adding an extra bottom and especially top cross compromises the racket's structural integrity.

    There was a bit more but it's not worth mentioning.

    So everyone, please practice safe s...tringing. :p
     
  8. singnflip4life

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    That stringing pattern... I've done some bad things while stringing before, but honestly, its painful to look at. Especially that huge gap up top in the mains and crosses.

    It reminds of some tennis patterns. Especially the final knot at the top.

    So UP early Dec, Revelation in early Feb-March. How about the next shipment of Precisions?
     
  9. DinkAlot

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    UP: G, you're in the NorCal so you can probably receive around Nov. 29-30. I'll keep you posted. :)

    Precision: depends on demand (as always).
     
  10. 3radius

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    dear sir dinkalot,

    "Adding an extra bottom and especially top cross compromises the racket's structural integrity." if i minus one string at bottomm, would it also affect the racket's structural integrity?
     
  11. DinkAlot

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    +At the bottom, the cross should start at # 9.

    -Adding an extra cross (starting at # 8) is not recommended but doesn't significantly hurt the racket.

    -Removing a cross, starting at #10 is definitely not recommended.

    -"Indo Way": There's another way, we call the "Indo Way" or "Indo Method". It's short for Indonesian way or style probably because the Indonesians started/invented this way:

    1) From the bottom, start at #8
    2) Skip # 9
    3) Jump to # 10

    Advocates claim:
    1) It increases the sweet spot
    2) It relieves tension at the T-Joint

    Panda's informal, unscientific findings using the Indo Method:
    1) Doesn't increase sweet spot.

    2) This can be somewhat backed up by the fact the sweet spot of the racket is in the center to slightly above the center of the string bed not at the very bottom.

    3) Haven't really tested or thought about the claim it relieves stress on the T-Joint but stringing it, the Indo Way, the strings feel loose near the bottom; and Panda doesn't like that feel.

    One positive aspect, cosmetically, from afar, the Indo Way makes your racket look different, distinct.

    So, Panda doesn't recommend the Indo Way but at the same time does not feel it is a significant detriment to the racket.

    If you use the Indo Way and feel it works, that's a psychological advantage so then...it works. :)
     
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    thank you sir for the most informative reply, I have been "blindly" adding and removing bottoms cross without truly understanding the effect. now i know :)
     
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    maybe not 20 years, but 20-days ......
    really terrible for 20-years experience
     
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    Wah. Looks a lot like the stringjob I got on my N90 - some ppl are not able to understand that not every racket has the same amount of crosses. Painful to watch. Also the head looks slightly deformed to me - did you check that? I think it's longer than it should be...how could a guy with that much experience do that? I mean even if you dont know the stringing pattern, you just SEE that this cant be right. No racket will ever have a big gap like that in the pattern :/
     
  15. DinkAlot

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    Unfortunate. But one other thing in the picture that makes Panda cringe is the tie-off at one of, if not the weakest parts of the racket, 10 o'clock. Why would any one tie-off there? Also the string pattern used must be weird to tie-off at the 10.

    OK, one more: the top two strings look to be under 15lbs. tension as the string is not even taut.

    There's more wrong but Panda will spare everyone.

    Please remember, if you are stringing a racket, any racket and have a question about the string pattern, please ask for assistance. Panda always says, better safe than sorry. :)
     
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    I think that I got wrong stringing from your distributor in Australia. I did not notice that but j4ckie who bought racket from me remind me on that. He stated that head of the racket was deformed because of that.

    Maybe that this was also a reason that I did not like the racket because of the deformed head shape.

    I must also tell that racket was not so bad stringed as picture above but j4ckie notice some irregularities. :)
     
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    Okay, let's not discuss the story behind the bad string job. Oh man, I still can't believe what I see. This is so revolting. What has this stringing world come to :crying:?
     
  18. j4ckie

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    Well, some "experienced" stringers find it to be beneath them to look up stringing patterns and thus either use old ones or apply Yonex patterns to every racket. I think young enthusiasms (like me) often spend more effort on doing everything right, as they are new to stringing and have to look up several things....even if the stringjob itself can be a bit inconsistent at times, at least its the right pattern and no additional stress on the frame.
    The guys from my clubs doing the stringing have secure customers (and dont do it professionally anyways), so they don't need to worry about the quality of their work too much as most ppl have no other stringer to go to and blame themselves if strings break too early.
     
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    DinkAlot dcbadminton
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    Nice pick Andrej. You pro photographers surely know your form but...

    Panda purchased that Technifibre VO2 Max the first day it was available. It's a gorgeous racket bag, one of the best looking. However, function is not nearly as good as the form. Once partially or fully ladened (filled), the balance of the bag is off. When you carry it on your back, the bag will sway from side to side. An unfortunate design flaw. Panda does not know why but may have something to do with the shoe compartment at the top, not bottom of the bag.

    Going back to form, yes Panda is actually going to base our Panda Bag on the Tech bag (just not the function) so good eye. :)



     

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