Is BAM going in the right direction?

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  1. pBmMalaysia

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    talking about Thailand, I was surprise they producing very good under 12 players some 8 or 9 years ago!

    but the sad thing was a lot of them went overseas for study and took their baddy with them :D
     
  2. SibugiChai

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    BAM shows initiative


    By K.M. BOOPATHY | boopathy@nst.com.my[/EMAIL]



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    SPORTS Minister Khairy Jamaluddin's call for the BA of Malaysia (BAM) to put its house in order seems to be bringing some positive development as serious efforts are being made to hire Morten Frost Hansen as the national director of coaching.

    Moves had been made during the Maybank Malaysia Open two weeks ago when Frost was approached by the top officials and BAM's interest in getting his services was highlighted to the council members during a meeting on Jan 18.

    Frost had confirmed that he had been approached by BAM and while he had stated the job is a challenge that any top coach would want to take up, he didn't give a final sstatement of intent on the matter.

    BAM had been keeping the issue under wraps but with Khairy expecting BAM to come up with immediate plans to see Malaysian badminton rise again, president Tengku Mahaleel Tengku Ariff himself is said to have taken up the matter to ensure the hiring of director of coaching would be successful.

    The careful nature of BAM is understandable after the failure to hire Park Joo Bong as the director of coaching last year despite getting to the final stages of having the South Korean sign on the official documents.

    However, Joo Bong changed his mind at the 11th hour after his employers Nippon Badminton Association offered him a more attractive deal to remain as the head coach of Japan until 2016.

    It was also rumoured that a close ally of Frost was in Malaysia a couple of days ago to have further discussions with Tengku Mahaleel on the terms and conditions.

    Should negotiations fall in place, Frost may return for a second stint in Malaysia later this month.
    Frost served as the director of coaching between 1997 and 2000 during the tenure of Datuk Seri Dr Abdullah Fadzil Che Wan as the BAM president.

    BAM didn't give a clear target to achieve during his initial tenure but Frost should be working with clear goals this time with 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro being the main aim



    Read more: BAM shows initiative - Badminton - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/sports/badminton/bam-shows-initiative-1.475167#ixzz2s8gOh1lS
     
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    If Frost takes the job, that means we won't be able to hear his commentating along with Gill Clark. :(
     
  4. pBmMalaysia

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    Might as well ask bam to offer gill clark as their ladies are damn weak in international scene :D
     
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    If (and this is a bigggggg IF) Morten Frost accepts the job, I wonder what will happen to Rashid Sidek.
    After all, when he was with the BAM the last time, Frost ejected Sidek from the proceedings :D
     
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    My spider-sense keeps telling me MF wont take the job
     
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    If BAM really hires Frost, RS will tell WR1 he will resign and Crybaby will call his mama to complain, then Frost will follow TAM and habis:D:p
     
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    Then the title of this thread should be changed to 'BAM HAS NO DIRECTION'
     
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    All should resign and let MF starts afresh with his own non political team and
    the results will be faster.
    After all LCW already announced his retirement so theres nothing else for RS
    to gain only pain if he stays.
    No matter what, its a forgone conclusion thats once LCW retires, its back to
    the doldrums and it may take another 20 years to have a top 4 MS player,
    not to mention world no.1!
     
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    That's the correct way, they can set 1001 goals and direction but without any implementations, then i believed BAM is not going anywhere.

    Some people more focus for the own interest rather than thinking about our badminton sport.
     
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    Dont take for granted for what LCW have said for retirement. Been said that since 2008, according some of BCers
     
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    IMHO, the truck accurately represents Lee Chong Wei.
    Almost everyone in the BAM is simply riding LCW's success.

    And when the truck finally stops, their free ride will end :eek:

    overloadedTruck.jpg
     
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    Why? Did he caught him (RS) napping on the job?
     
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    After Morten Frost arrived to coach Malaysia (in February 1997), Rashid Sidek abruptly announced that he would not play for Malaysia in the team events. However, he would continue to play in tournaments as an individual.

    This was before the 1998 Thomas Cup in Hong Kong, which Malaysia was hoping to win.
    After winning it in 1992, Malaysia had lost it to Indonesia in 1994.
    And in 1996, Malaysia didn't make it to even the semi-final.

    Rashid Sidek gave no reasons for his sudden refusal to play for the team.
    And no one dared to question him - after all, he was a national prima donna.

    Morten Frost, being a no-nonsense professional, didn't take it lightly.
    He told Sidek that it was either play in the team or be thrown out of the Malaysian side.

    Believing that he couldn't be touched, Sidek refused.
    Well, he was wrong.
    Frost promptly kicked him out of the team.

    For the record, Indonesia won the 1998 Thomas Cup - 3-2
     
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    By the way, Frost got Malaysia into the 1997 Sudirman Cup's top division.
    This was without the services of Rashid Sidek, then the World No.1 MS player.
     
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    Moral of the story - don't be too "Frost-y" with the coach.
     
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    IIRC, at that time badminton in Malaysia was split into 3 groups - BAM, Nusa Mahsuri and independents(?). Things were so bad that after the 1996 Thomas Cup debacle, Siti Hajar (Mahathir's wife) made a plea to all 3 groups to start co-operating again.

    Was I correct about this?
     
  18. SibugiChai

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    1998 i was not playing badminton and lost touch of the game then... too busy... glad to know that, Malaysia ALMOST won...

    Was rashid Wordl #1 then ?
     
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  19. OneToughBirdie

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    Where have you been? welcome back to EARTH...Only now you found out that BAM has no direction, tiada ada sistem?
    As for 'Some people more focus for the own interest rather than thinking about our badminton sport'...it is called protecting the iron rice bowl, okay make it gold plated rice bowl. When BAM is flushed with all these sponsor money giving the BAM clowns (they are still milking away in BAM today, amazing isn't it?) with more money to spend than brains, what do you expect? You really are in the dark place for too long.
     
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    Courtesy of NST :

    Frost asking for too much

    THE BA of Malaysia's (BAM) attempt to hire Morten Frost Hansen as the national director of coaching has been unsuccessful as the Dane's asking price is too steep.

    According to sources, Frost had demanded a monthly salary of close to RM100,000, which was twice the amount he received when working in a similar position at BAM between 1997 and 2000.

    The newly formed Capabilities, Skills and Research (CSR) committee, at a meeting on Thursday, felt it was simply not possible to employ Frost.

    The BAM is now turning its attention to former national singles coach Misbun Sidek after his name was suggested as a potential candidate during the CSR meeting chaired by BAM president Tengku Mahaleel Tengku Ariff with Lee Chong Wei also present as a players' representative.

    Misbun left BAM after tendering his resignation on Dec 31, 2010, and he rejected an offer by the association to coach the back-up shuttlers a few months later.

    Misbun has since kept a low profile but has been coaching his son, Misbun Ramdan Misbun, who also quit the national team last year.

    Misbun's return, should he agree, could also see him rekindling his relationship with Chong Wei which soured when the former quit the national team.

    Chong Wei may also reconsider his decision to retire at the end of the year as Misbun was the one who trained him in 2007-2010.

    While Misbun's coaching capability is undoubted, it would be a surprise move to get him as the director of coaching as he was reluctant to accept the position when offered in 2005.

    Meanwhile, Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong will still "amazingly survive" as a pair as they continue to have the trust of the committee who is counting on them to deliver in the Thomas Cup finals, Commonwealth and Asian Games this year. Kien Keat-Boon Heong's performance has hit rock bottom for several years and several BAM council members have been pushing for them to be broken up.



    Read more: Frost asking for too much - Badminton - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/sports/badminton/frost-asking-for-too-much-1.484586#ixzz2tM5KH8Pk

    Bold part : Back to square one.

    MF may have purposely raise the asking price to disqualify himself. Btw, with the Ringgit falling, what is RM100k?
     

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