Lin Dan ( 林丹 )

Discussion in 'China Professional Players' started by seawell, Oct 29, 2004.

  1. Ferrerkiko

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    From the way things hoes, the form of the china players, it looks like lee Chong Wei will win his first ever gold medal olypimics first the first time
     
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    Well, it would certainly be difficult to win his first ever gold medal for the second time. But, I suppose anything is possible.
     
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  4. King's

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    Lin Dan has won so much that he is constantly being viewed under the microscope. He'll always win some and lose some.

    Off topic. Gao Min, the Diving Queen in her time never won silver or bronze in all major events she partipated in. She only collected Golds!:rolleyes: You name it: Olympics, World Championships, Asian Games, World Cup and Goodwill Games.

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    * voted best springboard diver for 7 c-o-n-s-e-c-u-t-i-v-e years!
     
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  5. pBmMalaysia

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    There was an article somewhere I read about lin dan himself

    admitting he would play for his country first.

    I just couldn't find them in my searches. :p

    Well, the country badminton system is run by

    none other than the famous li yong bo inside china ba.

    If both articles / reports are true

    then there is some hell of a contradiction here :D
     
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  6. kwun

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    he can't exactly go out and says "f*** my country/team" when his country/team pays his salary.

    but he can go out and say "f*** BWF" when BWF bends over backwards to prevent his country from winning in badminton.
     
  7. LD rules!

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    The match fixing/walkover saga, is really BWF's own fault and in reality it should be them who get the blame, not LYB/CBA.

    If BWF didn't impose a stupid rule stating that "for 3 to qualify, they have to be within the top 4" then this issue wouldn't happen.

    It's almost as it BWF said to LYB, "here's a challenge for you, let's see what you can do" to which LYB said: "Challenge accepted!"

    If they said, 3 within top 6 or 8 then that's realistic to achieve, it's pratically impossible to achieve 3 in 4 spots, unless you have a tactical mastermind at the top, aka LYB.:)
     
  8. extremenanopowe

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    Every country should only have 1 player. That's it. Simple. There are so many countries in the world. Give everyone a chance to participate. This is one a lifetime opportunity for them. There are plenty of SS tournaments in the calendar. Be good people. Don't be greedy. ;) Karma will come back to those who are greedy, arrogant and selfish. ;)
     
  9. LD rules!

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    That would be completely unfair?

    Therefore by this, if your unlucky enough to be born in china and be #2 In the world behind your compatriot, you Gould never see the Olympics?

    Or you just go off and change your nationality to Namibia...
     
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    China cannot blame the BWF

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    I suppose that you are talking about BWF tournaments for individual players, such as the World Championships, Olympic Games, Super Series tournaments, etc, etc, ......

    China cannot blame the BWF.

    When BWF set up the rules, the rules apply to ALL countries in the world. If the majority of the countries are happy with their rules, then those rules should be applied/welcomed.

    Just because there are many stronger players in China, BWF should not please just China alone.

    When BWF was formed (then known as the IBF), one of their first events organised was the Thomas Cup. It was stated that each country can field in ONE team.

    Before IBF, Badminton England organised their first All-England Open tournament, they welcomed top individual players (it didn't matter whether the players were all coming from one country).

    If I were BWF, I would continue with their first rule; ONE team per country (for team events). And also to add in - ONE player per country (for individual events).

    Talking about China, I am sure that China would also like the Thomas Cup to be set up as a team tournament where each country can send multiple teams. Yes, their 2nd, 3rd and much lower teams can defeat weaker nations like Australia, where I am.

    But think of this situation carefully: BWF is a body for ALL Badminton nations. If BWF allow stronger nations to discourage weaker nations from participating, then BWF would have failed in governing Badminton as a worldwide sport (for ALL nations).

    In WC and/or OG, I would like to see just one medal being won by each country, not all 3 medals being won by one country.

    If I were BWF, I would organise tournaments like "Tournaments between National Champions of ALL Nations".

    In other words, for each player or team, their goals are;
    * To become the national champion of one's country first.
    * Then, to become the champion of champions of all countries.

    Therefore, for our world stage, BWF should invite only the National Champions (individual or team) from each country to participate their events, no more no less.
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    You're contradicting yourself. Having one player from every country is not giving everyone a chance.

    Everyone should be given a fair chance to be qualified regardless of nationality.
     
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    For a tournament regarded as the highest level, barring the best players from particpation because of nationality is nonsense.

    The BWF doesn't need to please any country. They only need to be fair to each player, who trains to give and show their best to you and me.
     
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    it is interesting to read chris proposal and i wonder if such a tournament where only national champions can participate.

    the way it is today, the World Championship is called "World" Championship, that is, it is a championship for everyone in the world. there is no mention of nations in the name, thus, it should be a championship for individual players, regardless of nation.

    what chris proposes, i would call it an international championship. it is really about the competition between the best of each nation, their national champions. thus it should be called international championship.


    and that brings to the point about BWF. prior to their name change, their are called International Badminton Federation. Which has the implication that they are there for the nations. but after the name change, now they are called Badminton World Federation, but in contrast, they seem to be more interested in the welfare of the nations instead of for the players of the world in general.
     
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    Then we need another body, such as an ABP (Association of Badminton Professionals) to be formed. They can stage this - Best players, regardless nationality.

    When this body can be formed, ALL players should be welcomed, even if 80% of the players are from China - A good example is set by Tennis (the ATP - Association of Tennis Professionals)
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    I think the problem is not about now many participant from a particular country but the manipulation that come along with it.

    I personally think if 4 from China are the best lets say WS, then all are entitled to participate as long as they dont come up with the simulated training matches, injuries, walkovers, tag team etc. When country comes first and professionalism second this is what happens.
     
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    That is why we have country like France, Singapore, Holland, USA, HongKong, Australia to take in those left overs.. kekeke.. This is also one way to control china's population. lmao... ;) You must be a Chen Long fan correct? lol. ;)

    Forget about professionalism. We are human. Human tend to abuse others with the power they have. Just look at those politicians. The are human. lol. ;) Use a brain against them. Follow the rules, if not, pls butt out. ;)

    You're contradicting yourself. Having one player from every country is not giving everyone a chance.

    Everyone should be given a fair chance to be qualified regardless of nationality.
     
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    looks like we are going beyond LD discussion.

    interesting to read all of these, and this is exactly why we saw so many walkovers, etc..
     
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    lol
    blaming olympic rule is like
    it is the law who force me to rob others since i need to pay high tax
    is that made sense?
     
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    That is best fit for countries like Malaysia, coz got one and only one great player, LCW. Good suggestion!
     
  20. extremenanopowe

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    Yea... how about UK? You got Rajiv Yousef? Same mate. Let's friend friend... lmao.. ;)

    We have to do our best to support 'our own country men'. Not supporting other countries.

    Some call it 'running dog' or traitors to their own country.. lol. ;)

    It could be due to the fact that their own country can't win it, so, what the heck, I'll support the best and claim it as 'my' country. lmao... ;) Since when is badminton a professional sport? ;)

    Or is it that they really hated their own country? very sad indeed. ;)
     
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