Zymax strings

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  1. singnflip4life

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    Beat 5 bucks a pack? That's insane!
     
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    I can get them cheaper than US$5 per pc, if the quantity is say 100 pcs or more.
     
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    I'm sure you could, but at that point, you just buy a reel. 90 usd for a 200 meter reel, 22 rackets per reel, that's $4.09 per "pack"
     
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    Dink and I were discussing the Zymaxes and we both realised that we find 67 to be significantly less stiff than 62 and 70. I'm wondering if colour has anything to do with it - the 62 and 70 I tried were both Optic while the 67 is white.

    I tried a 70 racket (an HPS cheapo) on Friday and I would say the 70 and 62 are almost identical apart from the obvious increase in gauge - 70 also comes with more bass:). I found myself holding back less with 70, so it is certainly worth further testing.
     
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    For sure white performs the best on ZM62 and ZM70 which so far have comparable perform relative to string thickness.

    ZM67 doesn't seem to perform as well. It seems to be softer, not as crisp, nor as repulsive (again, relative to its string thickness).
     
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    Dink, so the platinum 67 is butter then the white?
     
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    No, platinum is the same as silver, the exact name is "platinum silver". Based on only a few tries with each, white is better but neither is as good as ZM70, relatively speaking.

    It's not to say ZM67 is average or below, it's a good to very good string but it's not first-rate like ZM62 and ZM70 in white.
     
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    so what are the difference between the 67 and the 70 except the diameter?
    for what reason the 70 is better?
     
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    Please re-read Post # 165. It's clearly stated.
     
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    hmm... i see, i dont know what you guys like but i differently will sty with the 67, i dont like .70 strings...and 62 its bit to thin for me (playing at 29-28Lbs)
     
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    There will always be differences of opinion. Personally, after really playing with 67 and 62, I find 67 performs better in terms of control, without any real decrease in repulsion, and I'm going to start testing ZM70 extensively this January.
     
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    Dorysan: you see? Everyone is different with different opinions.

    For this Panda, ZM62 absolutely plays better, has much more repulsion and has better control than ZM67. But the main key is, ZM62 is more much crisp and stiffer than ZM67.

    But who knows, maybe SNFlip got some "good" ZM67 and Panda's was not as good. It's all relative.

    Moral of the story: If you are happy and satisified with what you have, don't worry about what others think or say. :)
     
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    200m will not give you 22 pcs of 10m string, only 20 pcs. For true 10m length string, if the qty is say 200, US$4 for each string is rather expensive, even with shipping cost thrown in.
     
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    let me post my opinion after playing with 70 and 62... (first i need to find someone who sells them cheap)
     
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    In the U.S., the MAP (minimum advertised price) is $90/reel and $5/pack. If you are an authorized U.S. Ashaway Dealer, you cannot go below that. If you do and get reported, bye-bye account. :p

    Since you are not in the U.S. you're pricing maybe less.
     
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    I thought the US is a champion in a free market and may not allow Ashaway to tie their dealers' hand. Anything that puts up a market price by threats from the principal may be courting potential antitrust problems. Even Yonex was fined by the Japanese government for a similar case.
    In Asia, we learn to be lean as only the fittest survive.
     
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    The US does not have a true "free market." While businesses are able to post higher prices with no problem (increased profit), they are severely discouraged from posting lower prices (reduced profit but increased business) that would take away too many customers from other businesses. Which is why WalMart has gotten such a bad rep in the past few years, whenever a WalMart pops up, all the nearby small businesses die out because they cannot afford to offer the same low prices as the huge corporate conglomerate. So we have a free market tempered by an "equality and equal chance for all businesses" policy.

    Now back to topic.

    Interestingly enough, the ZM67 I tried out happened to be the platinum version, because a friend had accidentally ordered 4 packs of it instead of the white, so he was looking to offload it. It also may have to do with the fact I only play at 23 pounds, instead of the high 20s Sir Panda likes.
     
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    The string in platinum is just fine. It's not a big deal. But this Panda has noticed differences in playability.

    High 20s? Panda like ZM70 at 31lbs. and would use ZM62 at 29lbs., ideally (which plays like BG64 at 32lbs.). :p
     
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    Enforcing retailing pricing is a technically an illegal behavior. In the case of Ashaway/Yonex, they may do it to prevent severe discounting, but it doesn't mean it's legal.

    Also, strictly speaking increased prices means higher profit margins, but not necessarily increased profits.

    Walmart is also not a conglomerate, it's dealing with one specific business, trying to expand into selling groceries, etc, but does not have enough scope to be compared to conglomerates made up of many distinctive business units, such as General Electric.

    As for Walmart killing off small businesses, this is because of their huge buyer power and cost cutting measures such not having any "inventory" on their balance sheet. Besides, driving out the competition is a free market behavior, as long as you're not selling below cost.
     
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    sorry Sir Dink, I though you used MP at 31, which would go to 29 with ZM. My mistake sir. There probably is also a difference with the silver platinum version, and either I like the difference, or I'm simply not good enough to tell.:p

    Sorry for the misinformation about Walmart and free markets. I was never good at business or Econ, which is why I majored in microbiology/biochemistry.:(:eek:

    Also, is it true that most international players use BG65 because it's one of the few strings that can hold the mid thirties tension they play with, and it won't snap at the first mishit?

    Then wouldn't ZM70 or ZM67 or even ZM62 become a better choice at this point? Same diameter, same durability, better characteristics?
     
    #180 singnflip4life, Dec 15, 2009
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