Swiss Open 2008: LCW lost to himself !

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  1. Wong8Egg

    Wong8Egg Regular Member

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    I remember Morten Frost commented in AE during the game between KJ and LD that KJ has to risk and place every shot very close to the side line because he knows he won't stand a chance against LD if he don't play better than normal, thus he made many mistakes and lost. Could this be the same reason for LCW? That LD is the main factor that caused LCW for many mistakes???
     
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    In fact KJ didn't do well in that match. Morten also commented that KJ didn't seem to be confident.

    To me, KJ seemed scared by LD before the match started. He assumed from the start that LD was too good to be beaten by usual shots. When one player is dominated by that kind of thinking, basically he's gonna lose. KJ made himself under double-pressure: the pressure from LD's shots and the pressure from the formidable LD in KJ's mind.

    LCW may have the same problem. I haven't watched the match, but according to some ppl's description, it seems LCW was thinking too much from the start. He committed many mistakes even before LD pressured him to do so.

     
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    Thus it is still LD who affected their confidence. I don't think they would commit the same mistakes say if they play against me. :p
     
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    One more, line judges can beat LD too:D:D
     
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    Sure it is.

    However, let me give you a counter-example. CJ vs. LCW in AE08. CJ looked a bit reluctant and didn't do well in most of the 1st game -- maybe due to their previous head to head. But then he thought, what the hell, I would just fight and do whatever I could. We all know that happened after that.

    So the point is, LCW should let LD's shots, instead of his fame, to force him to commit errors. :cool:

     
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    i havent seen the video yet but i can say the root cause is pressure from LD forcing LCW to make mistakes. If LCW play cooler, LCW will not make any any mistakes.
     
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    only happening outside of china :p :p
     
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    OK, I don't think it make sense.

    You're saying only IF LCW shots were more into court. Well what IF it was inside of the court and LD hits it back, then what. You're making what IF statements that only favors one side of party.

    I totally agree with Bannanakid, LCW lost. His fans should just except it. You don't see LD fans making these kind of thread when LD loses, because they know to just support him, not make excuses for him.
     
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    I think the thing we need to find out is whether this pressure comes from LD's shots or from LD's fame (or head to head with LCW). If it is the former, then LCW is pretty much doomed since LD is like one class above him; If it is the latter, then LCW can work on his mental strength and do better next time. The description from those ppl watching the match indicates that the latter is true, but of course we need to find the video and judge with our own eyes. :cool:

    In fact, if LCW play cooler, and cooler is in super-form that day and returned some of LCW's great shots, I suspect LCW will indeed lose his cool and commit some mistakes. :D

     
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    LD fans do make similar arguments. For example LD is not in form in AG06 final or LD was just testing his new tactics in Sudirman 07; etc.

    The thing is, due to LD's fabulous career in the past 4 years, many ppl tends to see the above arguments as real reasons instead of "excuses". I understand that ( in fact I myself support some of the above "excuses" ), but to treat similar arguments for LCW as purely "excuses" is definitely unfair.

    As to "making a thread", this forum is dominated by people coming from MAS and IND, that's why when LCW or TH loses, such threads appear.

     
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    i will keep aiming for the tape and side lines, some shots will bound to hit the tape and roll over or land on the line:D:D I loved the NSS :):):)
     
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    Most of the time, player make mistake(s) b/c of the oppenent. If you go up and play against him, I bet 10/10 he won't make too much mistakes. :rolleyes:

    Oh... I am more a LCW fan, but a loss is a loss...
     
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    LCW: So what's your secret?
    LD: what? of beating you?
    LCW: No lah... of throwing racket at Li Mao and walk away scotch free :eek:
    LD: come to china some time... ;)
     

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    haha, what's with the gunslinger style stance for both of them?
     
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    Funny picture and interesting conversation!

    This remind me that LCW's biggest weakness is the leave of Li Mao?
     
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    Funny to see a "LCW lost to himself"(as many Malaysian Fans called LCW lost himself in the game with CJ) example is use to counter/excuse another "LCW lost to himself" thread.
     
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    confrontation for the og in Beijing

    :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
    Tell me about it
     
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    No coaches should be blamed for the failures of the players. They have trained them to their best of ability and it's up to the players to apply their techniques in court. Most of our players are inconsistent. They can lose even to the lower ranking players cudring their off days.
     
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