Weight training and first day back to badminton

Discussion in 'Techniques / Training' started by Phil, Sep 13, 2002.

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Do you strength/weight/cardio train?

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  2. Yes, occasionally

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  3. No, I don't need to

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  1. Aesir

    Aesir Regular Member

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    Completely agree with you pandalord...I think weight training is just as important. Building up the quick firing muscles in your body can be a real advantage in a game, especially if you're an attacking player. Probably shouldn't go as far as building up a lot of bulk, but strength training would definitely help.

    Cardio to keep up your stamina and strength to give you that extra edge over your opponent.
     
  2. Paritos

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    More muscles don't really affect my game play, and I've gained 20 lbs since I started badminton. For me, it's all about the <<whip>>. For others, muscles matter more.
     
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    Weights that lets you do 8 reps max, Will that like slow you down in the long run? I was told to use a lighter weight that allows 12-15 reps max. Go down slow and push the bar up fast.

    I wanna ask, which is better for developing those explosive muscle.
     
  4. volcom

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    Lighter weights that you do fast repetitions with...
    But imo better to start off with raw base strength with heavier weights.
     
  5. gustaff

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    Nice, exactly what i was looking for :D

    Btw, is there any special machines or exercises u can do in the gym do get more explosiveness?
     
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    btw i think the more exact word i was looking for was "springiness"

    What exercises is good to improve "springiness" or the ability to jump high :p
     
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    I believe the term you're looking for is "stiffness" or "reactive ability." Here's one good thread on how to develop that physical trait:

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47006&highlight=inno
     
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    weight training

    Before i played badminton i mainly did cross country and athletics, so i was very skinny. Then i played badminton and my coach made me do push ups (100+) most sessions, my strength increased dramatically, now i have recently started to go to the gym and weight train. concentrating mainly on my shoulders, chest, triceps, biceps and probably most important, abs and lower back. Abs and back are your core muscles and bring alot of power to your smashes. Also i have heard when weight training , if you want to build alot of bulk you should do less reps but with bigger weights, but for more form(which is what you should aim for in badminton) you should use smaller weights but doing more reps. I think if you keep this in mind and don't over do it weight training can only benefit your badminton experience and keep you interested in playing and improving.
     
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    Weight Lifting

    I personally think that weight training won't help as much...its all about technique (ie footwork)...running would be a better option to make you faster
     
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    the professionals who weight train do not seem to suggest that.... unless they are weight training just to look a certain way but I doubt that.
     
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    yea true..I notice that lin dan looks kinda bulky in some way
     
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    Leg Press beneficial in Badminton

    Does any one find the leg press very good for badminton?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leg_press

    I do, I find in badminton, the stress on the legs is quite a lot like landing from a jump and lunging. Or landing from a scissor kick (around the head), many sources say, the impact forces on the ankle is 3-4 times the body weight..:eek:

    Is it true, that not only weight training on the legs helps prevent injury but also make one jump higher?
     
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    Calf strength for spring....
    Leg press cannot compare with Squats for awesome gains.
    Also Deadlifts are damn good....!!!
     
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    good point. easiest people to compare are lin dan and lee chong wei. one does weight training, one looks like he'll struggle with the groceries. and who won OG gold? :rolleyes::rolleyes: weight training is very helpful, although machine weights aren't as useful as free weights.

    sure, technique training is important, but to be truly good, you need both.
     
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    I noticed that if i did weight training the day before or the day you play badminton my smashes weren't as strong.
     
  16. Nanospeeder

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    Yup Phandrew.

    Weight lifting breaks down your muscle fibers, it is the resting part that allows your muscles to become bigger and stronger. So one or two days rest is needed. :)
    The differences will be obvious after a couple of days rest.
     
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    Depends on if you are taking protein, BCAA's, creatine and recovery products after weight training.
    Taking a product like SizeOn during training and whey protein 15 min after training ensures basically no pain at all the next day
     
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    pain is good :)
     
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    pain is dangerous. i would say muscle sore is good, any other sort of pain is probably bad.
     
  20. NiTroXiTy

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    My personal experience is that running helps boosting up your stamina. Go running 3 times a week, and your badminton single game will go up really fast. I never did muscle training for my arms.
     

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