Why +2lbs On The Cross?

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  1. dreamzboy

    dreamzboy Regular Member

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    If a customer asks, "I want 25lbs."

    Do you string 22.5 x 25lbs or 25 x 27.5? :confused:
     
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    I will ask do you mean 22.5x25lb or 23.75x26.25lb. If he/she is nor sure, I will string at 22.5x25lb
     
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    It would be stringed as 24 x 26 if the customer asks for 25lbs. Unless the customer specified 25 overall (25 x 25).
     
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    Since most people string the cross at the tension that a customer want, what is the main tension with 10% less?

    For an example, a customer wants 23 lbs. What is ?? x 23? It's easy to go from 10% of the main and you'll get a the cross value, such as 23 x 25.3, but the result will be too tight.

    Here's the formula to figure out the main tension with 10% less. Someone might have already came up with it, but I haven't seen it so here it is. :p

    Let y = main (vertical)
    Let x = cross (horizontal, value that customer wants)

    y = x/1.1

    Let's apply it:

    Say customer wants 23 lbs, so

    y = 23/1.1 will yield the main tension to 20.90 lbs or 21, depending on how accurate you want.
     
  5. LD rules!

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    do most shops resting with the cross 2lbs more
    For example if I were to ask for it restrung @24lbs then what would happen
    Would the stringer automatically know to string the cross 2lbs higher
     
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    so if I wanted to string my raquet to 25lbs? What would be the cross? like 23lbs cross and 25lbs main? pls reply
     
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    I think you would have to reuqest it , most stringers near me don't do it. Only after I ask them to do it , they will do it.
     
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    If you start to string the cross from the middle (the sixth cross from the bottom), no need to + 2 lbs and the shape of the frame remains un-distorted. This is verified 'cause I've done rough 10 rackets like this so far.
     
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    thanks I will ask them if they do it b4 I hand it in
     
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    If a racquet was strung 24x24lb and the frame is a bit rounder than unstrung racquet, will it return to a better shape if it's restrung to +2lb on the cross? or will the frame shape still be like 24x24?
     
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    It certainly do, unless your machine isnt too secure when stringing mains (especially 2pt mount), then it'll be rounded and the 2lbs might not fix it entirely.
     
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    I think if you stretch the frame about 2mm that will help compansate the frame from rounding out and string at a straight tension. I don't think it is necessary to add 10 or 20% as a compansation. We never did it at World Championships or US Opens.
     
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    Maybe even (straight) tension is fine for tournament situation where the players will cut the strings right after. However, most recreational players I deal with prefer a more stable string bed that will last two months: hence, 2+ lbs on the cross.

     
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    is this procedure specified in the usrsa manual or in the yonex manual?
     
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    it is not common but KDM rackets do get strung like that during his peak career period.
     
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    It's ok to be jelous of the AK.

    It's in the AK Manual which is more of a Bible than the USRSA or Yonex Manual. If you ever looked at my bio I was a badminton specialist before a tennis specialist. If you want to refer my expertize please refer to my badminton background before my tennis background. So I would appreciate if you would use Yonex before USRSA. It is only polite. Thanks again for all your praise!! Again I do look foward to meeting you!!
     
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    kakinami,

    tennis stringing again sir, pls. can my wilson k88 handle 75 lbs. of tension and playable on paper and in reality? the racquet seems robust enough, i guess...

    normally or for always, i string my tennis racquets at 62 lbs. w luxilon alu power (currently using yonex rds001 90, wilson k six-one tour 90 these 2 years mainly). now, about 6 months ago i got wilson k 88 and i progressively strung it higher by 2 lbs., so that i am at 68 lbs. right now.

    i fondly remember in the early 90s when i got a wilson hammer 110 oversize racquet and maxed it at 75 lbs. well, it didn't break but i just stopped b'cos i couldn't handle it anymore.

    cheers,
    MetalOrange
     
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    I was stringing for Vince Spadea Prince gut 74 Lbs. 2 years ago, Sampras came to our string team stringing at 80. anything is possiable, as long as the frame looks good.
     
  19. Pete LSD

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    How good is "looks good", Master AK? Do you use the same comparatives between a strung and an unstrung badminton frames to judge a 80 + lbs tennis string job? For example, length between an unstrung & a strung tennis frame. Then the symmetry between the width of the frame . . . etc.

    Tennis frames are robustly built compared to badminton. However, at repeated 80 + lbs string jobs, can a tennis frame last long?

     
  20. MetalOrange

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    kakinami,

    tks vm again for the swift reply.

    now, i wonder whether you are with PRIORITY 1 stringing (nate f. and ron y.). he he.

    hey appreciate it, really. more power to you and company.

    again,
    MetalOrange

    p.s. just to point i am not crazy about breaking things...i experimented w baddy racquets and arrived at my favorite 28/30 tension (same deal w my 62 lbs for tennis). certainly i went upto 33/34 but the string life was utterly useless, it lasted 10 minitues...and on the 3rd restringing it still broke (averages 10-20 minutes for the 3 times i strung it at 33/34) so i decided to ease back!

    Pete LSD,

    [off-topic] hey seems the SPECT imaging thing didn't catch fire yet huh! i am still thinking how dr. d amen didn't include baddy since it also involves a lot of hand-eye coordination?

    [on topic] in the past my wilson hammer 110 oversize was repeatedly strung at 75 until some lady ask to have it (fiery red gloss finish). the only thing that broke was the grommet (twice, for so many restringing). bearing in mind though that a 110 sq in frame might not be the same as an 88 sq. in frame.

    cheers,
    MetalOrange
     
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