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Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by Yoppy, May 2, 2011.

  1. visor

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    then really your choice would be between bs10 or bs11, first one stiff and latter one less stiff

    even if their bp is around 290-295mm, they play 5-10mm head lighter due to the thinner head frame cross section
     
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    Do you know if the head heavyness of the BS11 is just a little less than the VT80 or a lot?
     
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    i would say quite a lot... because not only is there at least 10-15mm in bp difference, more important is the difference in the cross section designs of the bravesword series vs the voltric series

    one is one of the thinnest and fastest design of all badminton rackets for aerodynamic reasons

    and the other is one of the sturdiest design for power reasons

    so please don't just look at bp numbers alone
     
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    You know how you said you couldn't deal with the BS12 because you felt it was wayy too flexible. Are you like a very strong smasher or hitter or soemthing?
     
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    I'm not that strong. :). The 4u vt80 is training me to be though. :p. I'm just fast with my swing, so I tend to do better with stiff shafts. Otherwise the head is still lagging behind a tad when I make contact with the bird.
     
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    Jaysus mate. You've been presented with a bucketload of information and feedback - process it and make up your own mind.
     
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    If you're good enough to notice the difference between a little less head heavyness and head heavyness, you're good enough to decide between a BS11, B12, and 3U or 4U.

    I've given you my opinion as well as many others plus the information available from Victor's website but I keep seeing the same question in different threads.

    FYI my 4U BS12 has a bp of 302mm and I love it.

    Read this; It helped me decide to get a BS12 or not.

     
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    Do you mean N90-II or N90 (old one, which LD is currently using)? Do you say that by experience or by reading this forum?
    Because for my feelings the N90 is still far away from the head heaviness of a VT80.
     
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    The N90 is a true sledgehammer. It's heavier than a VT80, unless you somehow got a 2U VT...and I say that from experience :)
    The N90II is more moderate - less head heavy and similar or slightly softer regarding stiffness, so it's easier to use.
     
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    Heavier or head heavier?
    For me it was: N90-2 > VT80 > N90

    Maybe I should borrow the N90 once again. The several times I've used it, it was easier to play than VT80.
     
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    Pfft...use a 3U instead :p
     
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    Keep in mind that even within the same 3U wt class there can be a 5g difference at the extremes. So if you had an unusually heavy copy of VT80 and compared it with your friend's copy of N90 that may have unusually light, then that could explain what you felt.

    Nowadays when I test out rackets seriously, I bring along my ruler for bp measurement AND also my digital scale to measure head wt and total wt. That's the only way to know for sure. :)
     
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    Really? I have the VT80, N90II, and MX80 all 3U with same (+/- 0.1g) dry weight (86g).

    For me...the head heaviness is...
    VT80 > N90II = MX80

    For me...the stiffness is...
    MX80 > N90II > VT80

    Hmmm...maybe I should get a ruler and measure the bp.
     
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    I would if I could, but then instead of spending money on more rackets, I'll be spending it on physio sessions for my shoulder! :p
     
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    So compared to the BS12, the MX60 should have the same flex. Am I right in saying that because the two rackets are rather flexible, if you have decent amount of power, the flex won't benefit you because you are swinging faster and stronger before the 'whip' can kick in? So if I find the BS12 too soft, would the stiffness of the MX70 be more suitable to a strong offensive play style?
     
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    Yep, I have both and that has been my experience. MX70 is stiffer, has higher swing wt and has a more solid frame than BS12.

    And next week when I receive the SW30 I ordered, I shall see if I can handle going up to the even more sturdier SW series. :)
     
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    No doubt at all - N90>>N90II, both in weight and BP. My N90II, I can use sufficiently in doubles, the N90 is a broad axe. Only good for long swings, but no changing direction or subtly, quick movements :D
    I play with a moderately head heavy racket, but the N90 still feels totally different whenever I play with it for fun...
     
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    guys, can u check whether my mx60 has correct string method or not? C360_2012-02-13-23-15-17.jpg
     
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    ^^ Uh, why is there a knot at the shared hole at 10 o'clock? That is a weak point on the frame and is a mishit away from cracking! :eek:
     
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    where are you suppose to knot for 80 holes rackets anyways?
     

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