Mavis 500 - they're actually ok

Discussion in 'Shuttlecock' started by gumpy_999, Oct 11, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    a pro play for money not because it is feather tournament.
    if a plastic tournament prize is $1,000,000 for first, and 500k for second, and a different feather tournament with prize of 5k for rist and 2.5k for second, and both occur the same dates, which tournament would top pros go to?
     
  2. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    u did not answer my question. Feather shuttles is the only paramenter they can change, in competitive play, what other variables can a player physically change?(except for another racket)

    it sounds repetitive but here goes again, pros prefer feathers before they eat, play, sleep, train in feathers. I said it before, it is human nature to choose what is easiest and familiar to them. Try asking taneepak to eat rye bread with his steamed fish
     
    #42 cooler, Apr 8, 2009
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2009
  3. twobeer

    twobeer Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2003
    Messages:
    4,001
    Likes Received:
    14
    Occupation:
    computer
    Location:
    Sweden
    Hypotetical, and higly irrellevant.. If LD got $1.000.000 for playing a charity game of baseball, I am pretty sure he would accept..

    Pro player have been asked number of times if they prefer feather shuttles or nylons, and I have never heard a pro suggesting nylons would be as good, or even acceptable..

    I am sure i pro players asked for it we would have plastic tournaments already.. I would bet that if we did a poll of badminton players regardless of skill and asked the question "if money was not an object, would you prefer to use plastic shuttles or goose feather shuttles" .. my guessis that an overwhelming majority would choose "real" shuttles.

    This is the real issue, not weather the pros wouuld accept inferior equipment for large enouugh monetary incentives ?!?!

    /Twobeer
     
  4. Kelvin

    Kelvin Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    1,638
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Canada & UK
    ROFL:D:D:D

    though Cooler does have a point about the pros playing where the money is...
     
  5. twobeer

    twobeer Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2003
    Messages:
    4,001
    Likes Received:
    14
    Occupation:
    computer
    Location:
    Sweden

    Well, They can't really "change" the shuttle parameter, as they can only switch to a new approved one..

    Other things similar is that they can wipe the floor to "change" it to dry if it became wet.. They can replace racket/strings if strings break (just as they can change shuttle if shuttle breaks).

    And yes, they have the right to appeal to the umpire to overrule or switch linejudge if the main judge feel the line judje is unfair. (§17.6.4)

    /Twobeer
     
  6. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    wrong, for charity, LD might even do it for free, he is genersous as i've said before :p

    as for a competitive baseball match?? i do not believe LD would participate since he has 'zero' chance of winning playing against other top baseball pros. LD won't even qualify to be in a team, how could he play? Please find better scenario to compare like tennis or table tennis. Still, LD wouldn't compete in those tournaments that has near zero chance of winning. Zero times gizillion $ is still zero.

    i can easily answer your last question LOL
    Korea willing to sign up victor and china willing to sign up Li Ning. Why? for large enough monetary incentive. They even willing to play against players using yonex :p:p:p
     
  7. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    u obvious miss the whole point of the argument.
    Plastic players can't request change to mavis shuttle in bwf tournaments can he/she? Since they can not nor bwf willing to adopt plastic tournament, it is useless to say top pros only play feather coz they have no choice.
     
    #47 cooler, Apr 8, 2009
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2009
  8. Athelete1234

    Athelete1234 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,677
    Likes Received:
    7
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Canada
    If the pros are playing where the money is......why are they playing badminton? Sad but true.
     
  9. twobeer

    twobeer Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2003
    Messages:
    4,001
    Likes Received:
    14
    Occupation:
    computer
    Location:
    Sweden
    It amazes me how much things you "know" for sure.. You know what LD would do and not do, and what the pros "really" feel about shuttles and money, and You know exactly what they think about different rackets from Li Ning, Yonex, Victor etc..

    It's good that you know so much, and have so few doubts :cool:

    :D :D
     
  10. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    i know action speak louder than my supposed assumption about the players

    did taufik show up at the 09 racket rally for feather playing, sichuan foods, west coast air, skiing, to taste canadian beef, to meet haugek or for the dough? have i made any wrong assumption about TH yet? U are free to look through all my prior postings to find contradiction.
     
    #50 cooler, Apr 8, 2009
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2009
  11. Kelvin

    Kelvin Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    1,638
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Canada & UK
    I think Master TwoBeer hit the nail on the head.
     
  12. twobeer

    twobeer Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2003
    Messages:
    4,001
    Likes Received:
    14
    Occupation:
    computer
    Location:
    Sweden
    Really good point!! I hope it becuase the game is so challenging and exciting...And that many pros love the game, and that makes it more than just a "job"...
     
  13. Kelvin

    Kelvin Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    1,638
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Canada & UK
    To earn a living?

    Not sure if you were aware...
    But often times tournaments in north america were passed over by the top ranked badminton stars because the tournaments here did not offer much money, and conflicted with scheduling of other tournaments.
    Occasionally you'd have a high profile/high ranked (eg. top 5 rank in the world) player come through... but few and far between :(
    Many have tried, and with some degree of success to sponsor, and help raise the profile of badminton, to attract more top players to generate more excitement in the public eye...
    However, its a vicious cycle.
    Tough to compete against more popular sports...

    "No money, no talk" I think the saying went.

    Food on the table is nice... unfortunately not all our brothers and sisters are so fortunate :(

    back to the topic...

    Mavis 500 > than Mavis 300 :D
     
    #53 Kelvin, Apr 8, 2009
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2009
  14. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    i think the nail hit somebody's head instead:p
     
    #54 cooler, Apr 8, 2009
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2009
  15. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    so then wouldn't they play for free?
     
  16. Pete LSD

    Pete LSD Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    13
    Occupation:
    Soul Searching
    Location:
    Canada
    Yes, I agree. However, it's a free world. If the nylon folks like a folding skirt, then all the fun to them.

     
  17. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    21,811
    Likes Received:
    23
    Occupation:
    Surfing, reading fan mails:D, Dilithium Crystal hu
    Location:
    Basement Boiler Room
    i know u guys like the shirt high:p
     
  18. Athelete1234

    Athelete1234 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,677
    Likes Received:
    7
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Canada
    Well I play with both and like feathers more, however the goal is still to put the bird on your opponent's floor, and any open minded player would not whine about one not being the "real" game. But if you guys like to passionately get threads closed due to mavis vs feather debates...I guess you guys can go do that. However for me, plastic or feather, I'm always ready to play.
     
  19. Tsumaranai

    Tsumaranai Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    800
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    In your mind
    I don't like the implications there, haha. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Pete LSD

    Pete LSD Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    13
    Occupation:
    Soul Searching
    Location:
    Canada
    TB is correct :D.

     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page