The placebo effect diminishes exponetnially if it becomes too cheap, so to maximize the placebo effect it is adviceable to pay a hefty sum!! /Twobeer
I'm pretty sure its not placebo effect and will concur with Ants.... but I'm more into the naturally emitting ones than those that are induced, if you know what I mean....
is it the body's magnetic and electric field altered the molecular structure of the necklace render it ineffective over time?
thx for the advertisement, hope u won't charge me for it. i believe the effectiveness of this product is user dependent. if the user is a hardened believer that it work, of course it will work. It is the mind that decide what is pain and ache, and what work or not. No scientific equipment that i know of can measure pain quantitatively
Excuse me, Please, but I think you easily group all of us who found the product to work as blind believers, but some of us do test this scientifically and not just believe it like pagans. The mind is an extraordinary and powerful tool, but I believe it also has limitations. I must humbly admit that I have been an even mores sarcastic skeptic than you but I realised there is more to this world to discover than what the normal scientist will tell you. and I think just because you dont see it, does not mean it does not exist.
The Hong Kong government has just banned a type of necklace pendant because of excessive levels of radioactivity, specifically uranium, thorium -232 and -238. Prolonged use of the necklace will lead to skin cancer. Earlier last month two similar neckalce imports were also banned for the same reason.
Placebo Is both real and proven.. I am curios how some have tested these products "scinetifically" and how they eliminated any doubts of placebo effects.. And what statistical grounds and what measurmenets of succes they used.. As someone mentioned.. If it really does work.. what better way than to scinetifically prove and publish these findings in scintific-journals, medical joulrnals etc. to be able to sell these products to healtcare, goverment, military so on and so forth.. Things you never see may actaully not exist... And sometimes you may see things that does not exist /Twobeer
I believe that that necklace pendant is from Cosway. This is a sample of products that are induced with too much energy that is unhealthy for human beings.
I think there are from Japan, touting the product as "Japanese Technology" for optimum energy for peak performance. To-date more than 2,000 neklaces have been seized. Isn't Phiten also for "peak performance"? Maybe, there is more than placebo effect here-perhaps more insidious.
Hi twobeer, I understand your point of view. Sometimes its difficult(if not impossible) to grasp something that is out of mainstream science. Here is one of the people that is at the forefront of alternative medicine/science. sometimes there maybe thousands, if not millions of mainstream health/science articles that maybe you might have overlook this that is not in the mainstream. http://www.scribd.com/doc/7145586/Lessons-From-the-Miracle-Doctors-Jon-Barron Please take note that I am not advertising here. I am not at all related in whatsoever way to the website. It is just some information to share. The placebo effect only belongs to those people who's sickness in the body and mind is at a minimum level, which they can change through positive thinking etc. What I'm talking about is how about those people who is bed ridden for years, those that have had their body ravaged by disease, and their conditions able to be reversed. I'm sure a simple mind game or placebo wont simple pull them out their terrible scenario. Please give me a sample or actually testimony that placebo is that powerful, as I have yet to see it. I agree that sometimes something that we dont see might not actually exist. But who are we to judge wether it exists or not? Please read Nicola Tesla's work and compare it Thomas Edison's work. Which person here do you find more in mainstream science, when in fact it was Tesla who invented the alternative current as opposed to Edison who invented direct current.( Currently more that 90% of our worlds electricity system is run on alternating current.) If you really researched Nicola Tesla's finding's and put 2 and 2 together, you will find out why inventions that he ventured into, such as "free energy", is not mentioned in mainstream science. What we really can do is not just believe blindly and try for ourselves wether is really works or not. So for me, its not a matter of believe, but a problem-reaction-solution strategy. Maybe it will not work for you, but it works for someone else. And if it works for other's, it does not necessarily means a placebo effect. Oh yeah, and if you asked me about Phiten products, I personally would not buy it as I am using other products already.
