JJS/LYD - Road to the WR #1

Discussion in 'Korea Professional Players' started by narnia, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. george@chongwei

    george@chongwei Regular Member

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    May i suggest you to read carefully what i'm trying to say 1st.;)
    Calm yourselves down and read carefully:)
     
  2. weeyeh

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    Well, FHF/CY's formation is really non-traditional MD. Most MD pairs have a fairly balanced front/back capability so you see a lot more rotational work. In the case of FHF/CY, the front/back bias is very obvious. The net capability of CY easily equals JJS (perhaps LYD is stronger) but the base capability of FHF is off the scale (with a possible equal in Kido). FHF used to absolutely suck at the net (quite possibly the worst net player in the top 10 MD but he's improved a lot) and CY's smash is not nearly as powerful as the rest in the field.

    Whereas traditional MD pair relies on no obvious weaknesses and a strong bias towards a certain style of play (e.g. JJS/LYD strongly prefers the fast knocking games), FHF/CY's style changes depending on who's where. Neither FHF or CY has the versatility of LYD but as a pair, they have a more versatile range of play. The dynamics that works for them is very different from the more conventional pairs.

    A few other notes:
    • OG Gold medalist (MD) pair is World #1 Kido/Hendra; JJS/LYD were beaten by Lars/Jonas in 1/16.
    • FHF/CY is still top ranked (currently 7) despite their "lack of skills/technique". No pair can claim certain dominance over them.
    • Yes, FHF's performance is vital in this pair but so it CY's performance. To a certain extent, at their level of play, no pair can afford to have anyone off-form.
    Once again, lets get back to discussing JJS/LYD. I believe they will top the chart again once JJS is out of military.
     
  3. huangkwokhau

    huangkwokhau Regular Member

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    As Long As LYD/JJS has not won OG or WC, they wont be remembered..it does not matter..how many SS titles or AE they have won.....
     
  4. huangkwokhau

    huangkwokhau Regular Member

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    Even Kido/Hendra won WC and OG plus more SS titles are nothing to Narnia...:D..remember that LYD/JJS are dominator....:D:D...if Kido/Hendra are not good for him..then let alone CY/FHF for him...
     
  5. narnia

    narnia Regular Member

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    Thanks for your real discussion in the midst of many people's just blah blah blah. I enjoy analyzing the games in details but don't like the guys who just stick to saying who wins... who gets the titles... without careful investigation into the details, quality, and content of the head-to-head matches. :)
     
  6. Timmm

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    I didn't see other guy always pay attention to the titles(although mention about but as a good reference, why not?)

    As a matter of fact,they did give some reasonable analysis, if you pay more attention.;)

    U wish is good but is not true.
    I also wish other people could really stand up to compete with china team, but not only with word.
    so take it easy, buddy!

    ps:I'm not a newbie:)
     
  7. narnia

    narnia Regular Member

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    So what's your analysis or view? Without detailed opinions, I can't tell the difference from a newbie. Take relax... :)
     
  8. Timmm

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    what's you detail question?
     
  9. james_m

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    wow..intense conversation..you know what? screw the analyzing..you guys should FIGHT IT OUT!!!!!
     
  10. Zabee

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    c'mon mates chill......there's no need to have the war of words here...
     
  11. LazyBuddy

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    In theory, all around is great. In reality, as long as you have a reliable of generating "W", you are all good.

    I remember reading an article, as compare to BCL, both CH and LD are tend to be "1 dimensional" in skill category. However, CH and LD's personal achivement are both better compare to BCL, and it likely will be that way, consider BCL's condition right now. So, how you explain this?

    There's another article regarding Reggie Miller, who might be the best 3-point specialist in NBA history. Scientists still can not explain Reggie's wrist release motion, as it's obviously against the law of physics. If most of us such form, it will cause injury, and let alone making thousands of 3 pointers in NBA.

    So, theory does not equal to victory in reality. ;)
     
  12. Joyous

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    LOL, know what, besides Lining rackets, the Chinese got to get used to the Lining shorts, clinging T-shirts, shoes & socks...
     
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    wow, narnia and weeyeh, thanks so much for a terrific analysis and rich discussion.
    Very professional and showing wonderful mutual respect.
    Similar and different views at the same time.
    No right or wrong opinions.
    Different preceptions conveyed in a sincere manner, that's why it's so enjoyable.
    Kudos!
     
  14. badMania

    badMania Regular Member

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    Oh well...the most consistent pair in the World right now has lost yet again in the first round. So sad....:mad:
     
  15. Jagdpanther

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    Argh, you beat me to it, mister! :mad::D

    Anyone can post the match stats, I wonder? :rolleyes:
    If not, let it be me, then. :)
     
  16. Jagdpanther

    Jagdpanther Regular Member

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    And here...we..go. :)

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  17. badMania

    badMania Regular Member

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    Well, this Guo Zhendong/Xu Chen is a new pair, so, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae have not analyzed their play thoroughly yet to be able to perform in their usual dominant fashion :mad:

    After this match, I am pretty confident that the consistent and dominating Jung/Lee will yet again dominate the MD! Hurrah!!! Esp with Kido/Hendra's own dismal and erratic performance recently, Jung/Lee should win the World Championships this year! God forbid them losing to another new pair in the early rounds :eek:
     
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    Jung/Lee had such a commanding and dominating lead at 16-8, and then 20-18, only to see that lead being overturned right at the end and the CHN pair ended up winning the second set 22-20.
     
  19. narnia

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    Thanks for reminding me of that; you were remembering that!

    Yeah, that's very unusual in their stats.
    This record can be a big thing in their consistency.

    JJS/LYD had lost to GZ(with XZ) in 2007 ABC SF. At the time, Guo showed very fast and aggressive movements. I know he's good. :)
     
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  20. jasonmarc

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    agree,..GZD have very fast drive, powerful and flat......he's only dont have a better partner,...XZB is not the ideal one for him...I think...!;)

    maybe CX could be the one for him......:rolleyes:
     

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