Will Lee Chong Wei remain World No.1 until the 2012 OG?

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  1. chris-ccc

    chris-ccc Regular Member

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    Challenging/questioning the percentages that hhs1000 has put forward

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    :D:D:D It's only for challenging/questioning the percentages that hhs1000 has put forward.

    It's not meant to be the only factors that will help/not help LCW.
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    To change the title of this thread

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    :D:D:D I am getting lots of mails telling me that Lee Chong Wei is not the World No.1 player. And they go on to say that LCW has not won major titles.

    Perhaps many did not read the whole of this thread. The World No.1 title is given to Lee Chong Wei by BWF. It is based on ranking points won/earned by him. It is not based on the number of major titles won.

    Perhaps it is better to change title of this thread. A more appropriate title could be:
    "Will Lee Chong Wei remain as the BWF World No.1 until the 2012 OG?"
    chris-ccc
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    Oh dear limsy, your above posting confirms that we got serious issues with our education system. And I dont blame you because our system stifled students like yourself from thinking.

    If your rationale is that Chen Long is now closer to LCW, then you may as well say that Blackburn Rovers is now closer to United in the PL standings. :rolleyes: And with Malaysia's new Fifa rankings, we can also conclude that we are now also 'closer' to the #1, Spain. And we should celebrate Malaysia Boleh style because we are now inching closer to Spain, the WR1. Malaysia Boleh!
     
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    Technically speaking, yes. If one day ago, I was 10 km away from point A, now I am 1 inch closer, then yes, in this one-day timeframe, I am closer to point A than before.

    But am I close enough? Is the rate of progress good enough? That's another (or two) question.
     
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    no need to explain many times,his dictionary different from us;)

    anyway,chris,my answer is most likely yes:p
     
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    Loh, you are correct but you missed one important fact. Only the best 10 results are counted towards the ranking points. So, even if LCW took part in 50 tournaments in the past 52 weeks, only the 10 best are counted. Of course, if you take part in more tournaments, you are more likely to have higher points, because you will have more chances to bomb. Contrast that to a player to only took part in exactly 10 tournaments. If he bombed in two tournaments, those 2 are also included in his ranking points. But, in essence, LD only has to take part in 10 high-ranking tournaments per year and do consistently well in them to overtake LCW.

    Let's say LD takes part in 13 tournaments in 2010 and he maintains his 2008/2009 form deep into 2010. In such a scenario, I will expect LCW to lose his top spot.
     
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    We should look at it realistically rather than technically because Chen Long at WR100 is no where 'closer' than LCW at WR1. If you consider Chen Long's current WR as 'inching closer' to LCW then we may as well say Umut Cetin at WR#672 is also getting closer to LCW. In the same vein, we may as well pop out the champagne to celebrate our University Malaya, ranked 230 in the world is getting closer to Harvard University at #1.

    I believe we should look or analyse things from a realistic angle because Chen Long at WR#100 is still a long way off LCW's WR#1.
     
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    again,ours advanced english education prof.p have some problem of understanding 'closer'

    we compare the SAME person to a position in different time.
    example:cl is wr 120 last week and he is wr 100 this week.
    so,he is closer to wr 1 compare to last week:rolleyes:
    it is unbelieveable that the prof.p in bc cant understand about the word closer:eek::confused:
     
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    Much before Pemuda did, I too had expressed great surprise.
    See this post.

    The word 'closer' doesn't ride on a simple "100 minus 1".
    If it did, I'd say I'm closer to the moon each time I jump.

    There's such a thing as a logical argument.
    That's what this is about :eek:
     
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    "Closer"?? "Next to"?? "Difference is smaller"??...

    ..wait a minute...
    ..i think hcyong's comment is the most reasonable one.
    Since this thread basically deals with World Ranking (now and the future, 2012) and not really judging by "the best player", technically (by world ranking), Chen Long's WR to LCW's WR is "closer", "next to", "smaller in difference to last week".
    Realistically though, between LCW and CL, yes, they're still a long way off (ranking and level of play).
     
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    At least, at least ..We are all agree that Chen Long had his way uphill now.
    I am concern that he is no ordinary junior as he had beat a WR1 when he was seeded #100++. C'mon,he's a news. We don't care if the japan's ba Ikeda Yuichi or any other unseeded players are getting closer. No one cares about their ranking.
    But Chen Long's case would be different, somehow.

    About having a logic argument, then it's not wise to have this argument.
    But, hey..get use to it. * kkk's having the same pressure before, i hope Chen Long is capable to cope with that.
     
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    The next World Rankings will be released tomorrow, Thursday 16-Apr-2007

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    Hehehe ... We are back to English lessons again. ;););)
    The word 'closer' was chosen because it was for expressing comparative degree.

    Let's look at these 2 statements:
    (1) We are now seeing CL making his way close to LCW
    (2) We are now seeing CL making his way closer to LCW

    It would be crazy to use statement (1). All BCers know that CL's and LCW's rankings are so far apart. Most would agree that we cannot say that their rankings are 'close' to each other.

    IMHO, it should be appropriate to use statement (2). Although CL's ranking is far away from LCW's, CL is making progress in the right direction. Therefore, we have this statement: "CL is making his way closer and closer to LCW".

    BTW, the next World Rankings will be released tomorrow, Thursday 16-Apr-2007. And we shall see how much 'closer' CL's ranking will be from LCW's.
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    however, i don't see u PAW what u say.
     
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    Actually, what are you trying to say la?
     
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    why we run into english lesson?
    why we should start panic regarding CL? he is still many tens of ranking behind LCW.
    LCW starts to panic about CL now...?
    or the LCW's fans start to panic? :eek:
     
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    Which part is that "what are you trying to say" eh?

    Ignore the panic ler, as long as you know Chen Long is not yet a threat for Lee Chong Wei, be it. I, personally like Chen Long. (compare to other China Players)
    He could do it better, And i shall wait.
     
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    16-Apr-2009: World Rankings List has not been updated yet

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    :D:D:D Because there is one BCer here who is always criticizing another BCer's English.
    There is no panic. Although CL is making progress, he is still far away from being World No.1. But we have to watch out for him (because some BCers thought he has great potential).

    Just checked the BWF site. Today's BWF World Rankings List has not been updated yet.
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    Well, PAW-ing is about winning as many points as possible while taking calculated risks. That's the reason why you are yet to win any titles. :rolleyes:
     
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    no, you won't. unless you only jump at night!;)
     
  20. drifit

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    gee...... my english also low grade. as you know, i went to idontgoto university, just do not criticize me. :eek: also, please do not criticize each other, whether is english, play skill, nylons, attitude etc.... just let go and ignore.

    yes, CL got potential and every other players too.
    everyone is making progress or regress. just don't panic. :D:p
     

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