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  1. Loh

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    Have you heard this interesting story:

    As the Americans were withdrawing from Afghanistan, the Talebans managed to hijack a very potent and secret weapon system from them when being transported on land.

    The Talebans wanted to sell it for cash and the Chinese were interested.

    The Chinese sent some top scientists to verify the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

    The Chinese decided to transport the system via Malaysia to avoid detection and placed the cargo under diplomatic protection.

    But the Americans got into action to try to intercept and recapture the cargo.

    The Chinese tried to make the cover-up better by using a civilian aircraft to transport the cargo to Beijing. The Americans are not expected to harm or hijack the civilians.

    MH307 entered the picture as it takes only 4 hours to fly from KL to Beijing.

    So the Americans planted expert agents onboard the aircraft.

    When MH370 was about to leave the Malaysian airspace, the Americans jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and then switched to remote control. That was why the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily, it seemed.

    The American agents took over control of the plane, switched off the transponder and communication system and flew Westwards to avoid Chinese detection and landed at the Maldives to refuel before continuing its journey to Garcia Deigo, US airbase in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

    The cargo and black box were removed, the passengers silenced by means of the lack of oxygen before the plane was airborne again via remote control to crash into the South Indian Ocean.

    Nice story?
     
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    Fascinating Story behind MH370

    Have you heard this interesting story:

    As the Americans were withdrawing from Afghanistan, the Talebans managed to hijack a very potent and secret weapon system from them when being transported on land.

    The Talebans wanted to sell it for cash and the Chinese were interested.

    The Chinese sent some top scientists to verify the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

    The Chinese decided to transport the system via Malaysia to avoid detection and placed the cargo under diplomatic protection.

    But the Americans got into action to try to intercept and recapture the cargo.

    The Chinese tried to make the cover-up better by using a civilian aircraft to transport the cargo to Beijing. The Americans are not expected to harm or hijack the civilians.

    MH307 entered the picture as it takes only 4 hours to fly from KL to Beijing.

    So the Americans planted expert agents onboard the aircraft.

    When MH370 was about to leave the Malaysian airspace, the Americans jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and then switched to remote control. That was why the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily, it seemed.

    The American agents took over control of the plane, switched off the transponder and communication system and flew Westwards to avoid Chinese detection and landed at the Maldives to refuel before continuing its journey to Garcia Deigo, US airbase in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

    The cargo and black box were removed, the passengers silenced by means of the lack of oxygen before the plane was airborne again via remote control to crash into the South Indian Ocean.

    Nice story?
     
  3. kelana

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    Drone's Command and Control System

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    Loh, here's the similar story that i learned


    Possible, Probable, Wild Speculation??? [just choose one's door]


    During the American withdrawal from Afghanistan, one of their command and control system used for controlling the drones operation, was hijacked by the Taliban when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taliban ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

    The Taliban want money for the system from the Russian or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the systems technology. The Chinese goal is to master the technology behind the command and control system, then, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

    Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile, American covert intelligence, with the assistance of Israeli intelligence together, determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all, the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American military will not hijack or harm civilian commercial aircraft, so MH370 is the perfect carrier.

    There were 5 American and Israeli Mossad agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 Iranians with stolen passports worked in tandem among them. When MH370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, an American AWACS jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

    During AWACS operations activity in the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft and Airbus aircraft are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing commercial aircraft could be remote controlled by FAA / ATC ground control towers. The same remote control system used to control the pilot less spy aircraft and drones.

    The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course, and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai, and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react. The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anabas, South India and then landed at Maldives some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refueled and continued its flight to Garcia Diego, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen by achieving a temporary altitude to 45,000.

    The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean [perhaps at some location nearby the naval base to make it inaccessible to outsider's ships], make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot, but first diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea, while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australians are diversion distracter.

    The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists. One does not like to think of officials or leaders as committing evil covert events or to do things to cover up a mess. They operate under the premise called 'The Burden of Leadership' meaning, the end justifies the means.

    The few inside the circle know the truth, those outside the circle know a little bit, but if the majority is confused then the objective has been achieved in order to stabilize the insanity of world events. Hard to believe it, right? That's the goal!



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    Related links

    Russia “Puzzled” Over Malaysia Airlines “Capture” By US Navy
    http://www.eutimes.net/2014/03/russia-puzzled-over-malaysia-airlines-capture-by-us-navy/


    A Boeing 777 CAN NOT JUST DISAPPEAR INTO THIN AIR !!!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjkpEV9hNJA
     
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    i know the following for sure: (i) a group of very sophisticated people planned this hijack, and (ii) they don't want the world to know where the plane has "ended". I am still hoping the plane hadn't crashed but had landed somewhere.
     
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    If the plane had landed safely somewhere, then the truth will be out. The highjackers, if any would not want this to happen. They need to silence everyone.
     
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    Well, since they can evade detection during its flight for 7 hours on 8 March, and since no one can find the plane for the last two months, i think the hijackers can easily fly the plane again (assuming it has safely landed) and launch an attack somewhere when no one is expecting anything. Also, hiding the plane for two months (or longer) is not that difficult for the hijackers, given what they have accomplished already (ie, flying undetected for 7 hours with no one having the slightest clue where it has "ended" despite this much of international attention). Again, I say the above assuming the plane had safely landed somewhere.
     
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    where is the Bomoh MH370 again? hahaha
     
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    Dr Mahathir Mohamad: "What goes up must come down" (2014-05-18)

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    Boeing technology, what goes up must come down — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad (2014-05-18)

    It has been over two months since Malaysian flight MH-370 disappeared and still not a single credible trace of its final resting place has been found.

    In the ongoing din over the confusion surrounding the recovery effort which has led nowhere, even the current Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak recently described the current rescue effort driven by satellite data of the suggested "location" of purported MH370 debris in the Indian Ocean as 'bizarre' and 'hard to believe'. Further, he told CNN when discussing the satellite data which is the basis for the current search in the Indian Ocean that 'To be honest, I found it hard to believe.... It's a bizarre scenario which none of us could have contemplated so that's why when I met the team...of foremost experts in aviation industry I asked them again and again "are you sure?"

    In short: "nobody knows." Or so the conventional wisdom goes.

    One person, however, who thinks someone may know more than they are letting on is none other than the man who was the Prime Minister of Malaysia from 1981 to 2003, Mahathir Mohamad, and who in a blog post earlier today has some rather provocative questions and thoughts.

    In his article, titled appropriately "What goes up must come down", the former PM argues that flight did not crash and its current whereabouts may be known to the Central Intelligence Agency and the Boeing aircraft company: "It is a waste of time and money to look for debris or oil slick or to listen for “pings” from the black box. This is most likely not an ordinary crash after fuel was exhausted. The plane is somewhere, maybe without MAS markings."

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    http://www.themalaymailonline.com/w...at-goes-up-must-come-down-dr-mahathir-mohamad
     
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    Wth?! So sad!
     
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    this morning when i saw the news, i saw the headline "Malaysian airline crashed in Ukraine". my first reaction was, oh, they finally found MH370.

    and then I realized the really bad news.

    RIP.
     
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    Yeah, same here, I thought they found the lost plane or came up with yet another theory of where it may have ended up...

    I'm Malaysian Chinese, and I still can't wrap my head around that... and now this. :(
     
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    please continue to pray for the families and friends of the passengers for both flights!!!

    the world is getting more chaotic as we speak :(
     
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    i was totally disgusted and feeling sick just looking at the censored version, i am not going to click on the non-censored one. i don't think that's giving the deceased any respect at all.
     
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    Same here, bro!.. Malaysian Chinese.. Just really bad luck for MH and tragic for the passengers.
     
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    Best thing for Malaysia Airlines may be to go bust

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    http://www.todayonline.com/world/asia/best-thing-malaysia-airlines-may-be-go-bust?page=2


    By William Pesek


    Published: 4:00 AM, July 28, 2014

    What a difference four months can make. In March, Malaysian leader Najib Razak was widely criticised for mishandling the search for a Malaysia Airlines jet that disappeared with 239 people on board.

    His government’s unsteady initial response to the Flight MH370 tragedy deeply tarnished the Malaysia brand.

    Critics are seeing a very different Najib after Malaysia Airlines lost a second Boeing 777 on July 17: Steady, circumspect and statesman-like.

    As world leaders bickered with President Vladimir Putin over Russia’s alleged role in the shooting down of Flight MH17, Mr Najib quietly brokered deals with rebel leaders in Ukraine to gain access to the bodies of 298 people and the plane’s black boxes.

    The diplomatic coup has gone a long way towards erasing memories of the MH370 fiasco.

    It will be much harder for Malaysia Airlines to recover its own reputation, however. Most observers acknowledge that the airline bears no blame for the loss of MH17. But as a business, it was teetering well before the crash, bleeding about US$1.6 million (S$1.99 million) a day.

    A month earlier, state-run parent Khazanah Nasional reckoned the unprofitable carrier only had enough funds to last another year. Now, many passengers are sure to declare Malaysia Airlines a personal no-fly zone, whatever the facts.

    Maybank analyst Mohshin Aziz was quoted widely last week opining on a Malaysia Airlines “curse”.

    OPTIONS FOR THE AIRLINE

    Privatisation is the main option being considered. The process may indeed enable chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya and his team to strengthen the airline’s balance sheet and improve competitiveness. But I worry it will not address the underlying issues — it will prolong them.

    The airline’s problems are the same as those that ail Malaysia Inc. Revenues lag costs because of insular thinking, inefficiency, fat supplier contracts and militant labour unions.

    Long shielded from global competition, staffed with political cronies and hobbled by inefficient supply chains, its employees generated a paltry US$220,000 of revenue on average in the past three years compared with US$524,800 at Singapore Airlines and US$245,000 at Thai Airways.

    Those headwinds may intensify now because privatising a government-linked company essentially means bailing it out. There will be less urgency to challenge the status quo, not more.

    Bankruptcy is the better option. It would free management to make the bold moves needed to turn things around: Scale back the airline’s global ambitions; scrap many routes; face down powerful union officials who have managed to scuttle previous overhaul efforts; and perhaps rebrand the airline.

    The process worked for Japan Airlines. After JAL filed the largest bankruptcy by a non-financial Japanese company in 2010, the company slashed enough jobs, flights and debt to relist and prepare for seeking a credit rating to sell corporate bonds again.

    Malaysia Airlines’ troubles are more daunting in some ways. It faces cut-throat competition from Tony Fernandes’ low-cost AirAsia and has an unparalleled image crisis on its hands. But JAL demonstrates that the bankruptcy of a flag carrier is not the end of the world.

    The stumbling block, of course, is pride. Malaysia is a still-developing nation eager to tout homegrown symbols such as Proton cars and the Petronas Towers, which dominate the Kuala Lumpur skyline.

    If sound business thinking were at play in Putrajaya — Malaysia’s administrative capital — the national carmaker would have been shuttered 10 years ago. Letting Malaysia Airlines go bust would not be any easier for Mr Najib’s party.

    Complacency, though, carries its own risks. It is true that Malaysia is currently growing at a healthy 6.2 per cent pace.

    The country has done well building physical infrastructure and raising living standards.
    But Putrajaya should not let itself be lulled by these metrics. By not implementing reforms for the future — foremost among them, scrapping the race-based preferences that benefit ethnic Malays only — Malaysia risks standing still while countries such as Indonesia and the Philippines race forward.

    This dynamic, as I have written before, helps explain why Malaysia’s entire economy is not flying higher. Jettisoning Malaysia Airlines now, forcing the kind of painful restructuring the company has avoided for so long, would send a powerful signal throughout the economy.

    If the airline can root out its deepest problems, it might not only rehabilitate its own image, but Malaysia’s, too. BLOOMBERG


    ABOUT THE AUTHOR:


    William Pesek is a Bloomberg View columnist based in Tokyo who writes on economics, markets and politics throughout the Asia-Pacific region.
     

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