Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

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  1. DinkAlot

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    Sir, "synergy" is the key to racket design. If you recall:


     
  2. DinkAlot

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    Initial review of the Trinity Pro from I.K. in New Jersey, USA via e-mail:

    "Thanks,
    I got the racket.
    It's the best I've had so far.
    I tryed it last Friday without any overgrips (was 310mm balance) [with string].
    The power is incredible and the net drops are very precise. I like ZyMax70 than bg80.
    Shaft stiffness and the string tension are just right for me.
    Easy to get used to.
    I am still exrerimenting with the balance. I took of the original grip off and used two thin overgrips to move the balance to 305mm.
    It should be better, I will try it this week.
    Thanks."
     
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    :eek: is there any other site with unbiased reviews of the DC rackets ?
     
  4. dimcorner

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    This place should be pretty good for the reviews.
    This is only my 2nd ever Panda racquet and it really is as good (for my style and capabilities) as everyone makes it out to be. It might sound biased, but you just have to try it and see for yourself. Reviews can only get you so much and just point you in the general direction when it comes to racquet selection just because everyone plays differently. I used to be a Yonex guy and this is my first racquet outside yonex and it's very good. I have played with SOTX and RSL's as well. Just for reference here are the list of racquets that I have owned.

    Kawasaki ??? (1994), Carbonex xx, Isometric Ti SX, Ti-10 1st gen, TI-8, MP88, MP100, MP90, AT800 OF and DF, AT900 P and T
    Arc7, ArcZ, TI-10 3rd gen, Precision, TPro.

    I have played with NS8000, NS9900, Arc10, SOTX W7, RSL something, Arc 9, AT700, AT600. I even just tried out the Voltric 70 the other day and my first impression was "meh". Nothing special, a bit head heavy, definitely feel vibration.
     
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  5. DinkAlot

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    These are unbiased review. Panda directly copies and pastes them, unchanged. You will see a "more" negative review coming up shortly.

    There's no perfect all-in-one racket for everyone. It would be like say one food is everyone's favorite, it just will not happen.
     
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    Why there are so many rackets: so many players and each one with different preferences...

    A local advanced player, "V", purchased a TPro, wanted it in G4, 88g, BP288 with ZM70 @ 27lbs.
    So Panda modded the grip and got him about G4 (he thought it was a bit thicker), 87.5g, BP287.

    Though he liked it, he felt it was a bit too heavy and demanding...

    ...Panda let him try his personal Ultra Pro, ~86.5g, BP294 with ZM62 @ 28lbs., G5 (RKEP Ultimate) and "V" thought the racket was less demanding, and better suited for him. So Panda let him exchange rackets. :)

    On paper, the UPro is more demanding and the string stiffer, harder to bend. It was fact. But yet "V" felt the UPro was easier to use and less demanding.

    Moral of the story: doesn't matter what the specs say, go with what you feel most comfortable with. But don't go with an initial impulse if you can help it; if possible, play with the racket for an extended period of time over a few days to see if it's truly the right fit for you. "V" is a more advanced player so he knows what his needs are. Pretty sure he got it right.
     
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    Considering that Dinkalot is the owner of DC Badminton and a well respected member here (and the overall lack of badminton forum sites), and that DC Badminton rackets are generally not sold in stores (except in Canada), it's not surprising that there are very few places to find reviews.

    One of these days, I'm going to compile and organize these reviews based on racket, then weight, then BP, then "skill level"

    EDIT: haha Dink beat me to it. Go listen to him
     
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    Consider TPro BP295 with no string. Which balance will make stringing it with ZM70 or ZM67?
     
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    Little off topic...
    But after 264 pages of posts... has Panda ever taken a vacation?
     
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    He doesn't need to. He practically lives within 10-20 blocks of Disneyland! And when he wants to relax, he goes hit a few birds at SGVBC! :p :D

    I would trade places with him in an instant! :D
     
  11. DinkAlot

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    Was going to drive up to NorCal with Coach Don and play some with Kwun and the NorCal crew for a week and also do the ultimate string test but some stuff came up so no. :(

    Also, if you change the options in your settings to max displayed posts per page (40 post per page), it's only 113 pages. :p
     
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    This Panda does not understand the question. Please clarify, thanks.
     
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    I think what he means is how far the string will shift the BP
    I would like to know the answer too
    for example, string will shift the BP around 20mm to the head, overgrip will shift the BP 5mm to the handle
     
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    Oh, I'm sorry. Just calculating specs for TPro to meet the desired BP when strung. Could you please give a hint which BP will have a 295mm TPro after strung with ZM67? Thanks.
     
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    In general:

    Adding string alone: BP is increased ~6-8mm, depending on the thickness of the string.

    Adding a standard 0.6mm over grip, not overlapped, tape at the bottom of the cone/cap: decreases the BP by about 4-5mm. If half overlapped and up to the handle, can decrease the BP by up to 10mm.

    Replacing the original grip varies because of the replacement grips thickness and weight.
    The lightest replacement grip taped at the bottom of the cone/cap is ~7g, heaviest normal flat grip: ~12g, heaviest with a raised ridge ~15g, so a 6g to 8g difference in grip weight alone can be achieved.
     
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    Oh that's easy, because Panda's 3 x TPros before stringing are 288-289, after stringing BP295. :D

    So if with thin string, need BP 289-290 to achieve BP295 with string

    If with thick string, need BP 287-288 to achiece BP295 with string
     
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    Thanks Dink for the information, I am surprised that string only increase the BP by 6-8mm
    I thought it would be around 15-20mm

    *and it seems I should stop trying to figure out what people said! :p
     
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    I haven't tried it yet - mine will only get here when yours get here!:)
     
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    Anybody please?
     
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    Woven is supposed to me stronger & more stable less random than standard grapite. Also I think (Someone will correct me I am sure) that using woven means less adhesives & compounds so more of the stuff that matters, less of the stuff that doesn't.

    Woven isn't a game changer though, some of the SOTX woven rackets are good, some are not so (IMHO). As I said in my previous post in this thread the Fleet Woven rackets are very poor.
     

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