Lin Dan's "broken" racket grip...

Discussion in 'Grip' started by kwun, Jan 24, 2006.

  1. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

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    yeah right...
    According to the static balancing physics you're thinking of now... When things move, stuff changes... (only just started my eduction, so bare with me ;) I might be able to explain it in to detail further on down the road :p)

    but even so, thinking of it as quasi static...
    standard racket: 90 grams, 310mm balance
    towel gripped: 88 grams, 315mm balance

    How are you so sure the towel gripped feels heavier?
     
  2. Master Yoda

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    Never said it feels heavier and doesn't matter if its moving because the weight in the racket stays at the same point in the racket.
     
  3. jerby

    jerby Regular Member

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    It's a good read
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia
    But really, all this has been done before...5 times I guess...
    The general clue is that when you swing/move/rotate things the general idea of basic moments (force x distance from center of gravity) doesn't apply...

    I must admit, I'm terribly confused...
     
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    I wouldn't worry about it then, its actually quite simple. But if English is your second language then some words might have a slightly different meaning to you than me. Sorry if that sounded mean, but I don't know how I could make it any simpler.

    It makes so little difference anyway
     
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    torque ;) i agree with the others on this, in doubles i rarely move my hand down to the base of the grip unless i have enough to time to charge up for a big smash.
     
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    I have been using my badminton racket with the towel grip in a way much like lindan's, accually, exactly the same, but without taking the original factory grip off, i did it because i kept holding near the top of the handle, now i just hold the bottom, it feels great, having the feel and the comfort of the badminton racket, i think ill use this sort of grip style for a long time to come... :rolleyes:

    I play both singles and doubles... hehe, works for both...
     
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    Hey, I recently changed to this style of towel-gripping and I found it great too! My shots were so much more powerful ( somehow, more control too ) because I always had to hold the racquet by the bottom. I then changed back to the normal PU over-gripping up the cone, and I lost all the power and also the timing. I tried the lin dan-style grip again, and got back the previous power that I had. I'll continue to use this grip, it's wonderful.
     
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    so i can basicly achieving the same by forcing myself to hold the racket as low as possible?
     
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    Using half of the grip tape, you'll increase the BP by a bit. You'll either have to cut back on grip, or add lead tape to your racquet.

    But hey, holding the racquet at the very bottom is a good start too.
     
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    It look odd........
     
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    Well, you've got to try it on your own to see if it suits your liking or not.

    Holding the racquet as low as possible would obviously help you produce more power than holding the racquet by the cone. Some basic physics, T=FD. Same force, more distance from the pivot ( balance point ? ) = more torque = we strike the shuttle harder.

    In my case, the BP lowered down to 295mm because I had to wrap the towel grip over an overgrip ( over the wooden handle ). Without that overgrip underneath the towel grip, I would get a swelling on my thumb.
     
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    No tape on top of grip = Lin Dan

    Hallo guys,

    I just watched the match between Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei. Gillian and Poul Erik were discussing about the grip Lin Dan "constructs". No tape on top of his grip.

    My theory:
    To get the forefinger and thumb as loose as possible (a grip technique when hitting, which is quite commen, although not a vital technique), Lin Dan cuts the top tape out, to make sure that these fingers "get" a minimum contact possibilty, so they are very loose while hitting the ball.

    What do you think guys, why some players play with such a grip?

    Regards...
     
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    A Hong Kong commentator, who is a badminton coach, explained it differently. LD's game is power-based and holding the racquet more towards the butt end is more efficient for power transmission. LD had a very bad tendency to hold the racquet higher up towards the cap. That barren patch of wood near the cap side is his way of "shortening" the handle by "extending" it towards the butt end. He learned this from Taufik.
     
  14. Amin Khalili

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    Yeah .. I heard the same thing
    Anyway .. taufikh is genius!

    A question .. what grip did LD use?
     
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    LD uses towel grip.
     
  16. Amin Khalili

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    Thank you ...
    Ouh .. how about string@tension?
     
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    I think he uses BG 65 at a tension between 30-33
     
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    LOL, i used that link as well to find out for sure
     
  20. Amin Khalili

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    I already found one thread just now .... that time he use 3U-G4 with BG-65 .... wooden towel with tape on top on it
    guys ... if higher tension will it cost any damage on my racket?clash crack or anything?
     

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