Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

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  1. Avenger

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    so.. any review about Tpro? :)
     
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    I use BG80 and normally 22lbs. but for the UPro I went down to 20lbs. :)
     
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    That'll take some more time - I haven't fully adapted to the racket yet...
     
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    For giggles I tried stringing it with 28lbs of Zm62... Great control, but I can't play much with it. Very hard on the shoulder. Will drop back down to 26lbs. I think a slightly head heavier version might do me better but we shall see.
     
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    tried canti's TPro last night for a couple of minutes.

    it was strung with ZM62@28lbs. it was pretty tight, even though the frequency is lower than my stringing of ZM62@27lbs on AT700.

    i didn't hit too much with it. partly because we didn't have a court, and partly because i didn't want to snap his new string. :)

    the initial feel is pretty good. good balance, fast swing, solid feel. damping seems to be rather high but maybe due to extra high tension. will have a much better feel of how it when i get mine... ;) ;) *cough* *cough*
     
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    Probably because Panda strings at 28/28 (same main and cross...now), not 27/29 (usually produces a higher pitch).

    Kwun, you need to get that *cough* checked. ;)

    The 3rd batch should be ready in a week or so. Thanks.
     
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    i think partly due to it has been used for a day or so. so that dropped probably a pound (~30Hz) and also it is a different frame. i also string even tension, 27/27.

    sweet! looking forward to it.
     
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    great news .... hope to get mine as well ...
     
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    agreed!.... and mine as well.
     
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    Yep, you cannot compare the pitch of a newly strung racket vs. one that has been used a bit. Newly strung is always going to be higher unless it's a 4+lbs. difference (all other things being equal of course).
     
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    Why are you now stringing at even tension??? Always been adding 2 to 3 lbs more to the crosses for my end tension. By stringing even, don't it make the mains tighter??
     
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    Hi Ineoas

    Just wondered if your T-Pro has arrived and if so have you had the opportunity to play with it?

    Cheers
     
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    theory and experimentation often do not agree.

    there is no reason why mains and cross needs to be the same tension. they are different length and different density along the frame. experiment and see which one works the best.

    starting around a year ago i started doing even tension as from my own experiment, that has the best feel.
     
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    Kwun: Maybe even tension gives better results with the thinner strings (ZM62) as opposed to say, BG65 or ZM70? Have you had any experience about this?
     
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    the thickest i have tried is BG80. which works well with even tension.
     
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    There are a few variables to this question.

    What is your main goal when stringing?
    1) most accurate tension? (If so, racket frame strength suffers)
    2) best racket durability (If so, tension won't be the most accurate)
    3) best playability? (If so, racket frame strength suffers)

    The above stringing methods are slightly different and the differences in racket frame strength are insignificant to very minor up to 24lbs. ECP. Tension range 25-29lbs. is minor to moderately significant. However, when it's 30+lbs., can be very significant.

    Also, depends on what machine you use and your stringing skill level and technique.

    Panda's goal is always to string with racket durability in mind first. String performance is second.

    To try to get the best racket durability, you need to try to string and keep the racket head shape as close to the original unstrung shape as possible.

    On machines with weaker, lesser quality supports, a 2-3lbs. (or 10%) difference on the cross may be needed.

    On machines with better supports adding to the cross is not necessary.

    How do you find out? You need to string a few rackets with your set-up and compare the differences.

    Panda's stringing machine has evolved quite a bit. In it's original form, a 10% difference was needed but not now.
     
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    I noticed that my machine yields very good results with just slightly higher cross tension (like 5%). With lower tensions, there's no need to add more than 5%, but when I recently strung a racket with 29lbs, I had to do it 28/30. Playability is a bit better when crosses are slightly tighter (10%), but as it distorts the frame (by ~2-3mm), I rarely string that way.
     
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    so.. Panda, I would like to know
    since the frame strength is insignificant at lower tension
    for example 23 lbs
    If I would like to string my Tpro to a stringer that I never used before
    should I go for 23/23
    or should I go for like 21 main, 23 cross, or 22 main 24 cross? (which one will produce 23lbs?)
     
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    Depending on the machine, 22/24 or 23/23. Normally, if you just ask for 23lbs, the stringer will adjust accordingly (as he knows his machine and how it will deform the racket)
     
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    Avenger: ^^^answer^^^
     

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