Will Lee Chong Wei remain World No.1 until the 2012 OG?

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  1. chris-ccc

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    If we don't accept the Ranking System by BWF, then which system should we use?

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    Yes, I was puzzled too. If we don't have a standard Ranking System (where most BCers accept the BWF System to be the one), then how are we to continue our discussion here? :confused::confused::confused:

    One could be talking about Summer, while the other could talking about Winter.
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    wr 1 = world BEST player?
    bwf say so?:confused:
     
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    In this thread, we are talking about players' World Rankings

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    In this thread, we are talking about the players' World Rankings. We are not talking about who is more skillful and/or better than other.

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    World No.1 = World BEST player?

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    :D:D:D You are sending us a riddle to solve again. :D:D:D

    Of course, the World No.1 doesn't have to be the World Best player.

    Just consider this: A player who participates in all tournaments (say 52 tournaments in a year). He/she, even though finishing as runners-up in all the 52 tournaments, can be World No.1. It's how the system works. Just add up the points gained at all his/her tournaments.
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    Yes, that's why i apologize, Chris.:eek:
     
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    LOL, that's a good one chris :p, Hauge & Krisna can do some of the promoting.
    In any case, many of the points already covered for now in these pages. If LD (& Team CHina) continues selective participation, then we may only see changes in 2010. And also we need to wait until after TC & WC 2010 to see who retires (PG did indicate he might retire by then) & who are the young guns that are rising up the rankings.;)
     
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    In this thread, we are discussing whether LCW will still be WR1 come the OG 2012

    In the forum yes, BUT this thread is about whether LCW will still be WR1 come the OG 2012.

    We are discussing whether LCW can maintain his WR1 come OG 2012 here in this thread (please refer to the title of this thread). We are not discussing BWF ranking system here in this thread.

    Again, this thread is not about BWF ranking system or suggestions to upgrade/improve/tweak the current system. The title of this thread is 'Will LCW remain World No.1 until 2012OG'

    For those having trouble understanding the title of this thread, maybe it is time to invest in a pocket size dictionary.

    There is a big difference between LCW maintaining his WR1 come 2012 OG and testing out some new ranking system in BC. It is amazing how some find it hard to understand the title of this thread.
     
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    It is expected that CHN will come FULL FORCE as the 2012 Olympic Games approaches

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    It is expected that CHN will come FULL FORCE as the 2012 Olympic Games approaches. It is when they will try to field in 3 entries per event.

    The rest of the world will have to wait and see. If CHN players can qualify to have 3 entries per event, why not?

    I am never against rules as set. Because the rules set apply to everyone.

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    Perhaps my explanation on how the BWF Ranking System works is not clear

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    :D:D:D Here, we do not need a pocket size dictionary. We only need to understand how our BWF Ranking System works.

    Perhaps my explanation on how the BWF Ranking System works is not clear/complete.

    Could some BCers bring in some new items that I have missed explaining? :eek::eek::eek:

    Also could our moderators change the title of this thread to "Will Lee Chong Wei remain as BWF World No.1 until 2012 OG?". This will prevent debates if we have our own concepts of who should be World No.1.
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    Thread is now about BWF ranking system & players' world rankings

    The thread has now changed to BWF ranking system and about players' world rankings??:eek: The thread now is no longer specifically about LCW and whether the man can still remain as WR1 come OG 2012.


    Despite what was said below, the thread now is about BWF ranking system :eek:












     
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    As long as LCW is still World No.1, this thread is relevant

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    As long as LCW is still World No.1, this thread could be active.
    As soon as LCW is toppled, this thread might not be active anymore.
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    In the first place this thread is not about how the BWF ranking system works

    A pocket dictionary is indeed needed, and urgently too because this thread is not about the BWF ranking system or how the ranking system works. This thread is specifically about whether LCW can remain as WR1 come OG 2012 as suggested by the title of this thread.

    A standard 2 student will be able to tell and understand from the title of this thread that this thread is not about BWF ranking system or how the system works. :)

    Anyway, please re-read this posting http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1143744&postcount=116 this is where the BWF ranking system 'suddenly' popped up.

    And this is where it gets interesting; http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1143788&postcount=117

    Even if the mods changed the title, this thread is still specifically about whether LCW can maintain his WR1 by 2012.

    I am truly amazed! :D
     
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    Which is which now? LCW WR1 till 2012 or BWF ranking system???

    Is this thread about BWF ranking system and how it works or is this thread about LCW?
     
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    Maybe I missed some action in the last Beijing Olympics. Are you saying China took an 'easy going' approach in the last Olympics?

    No wonder LD was taking it easy in the final against LCW :rolleyes:
     
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    Hmmm, that should be sometime 3rd quarter of 2010 or early 2011. That's when the young guns like Chen Long et al really need to participate to move up the rankings. Now, still too early to tell but at the moment, looks like BCL may be losing a shot at his 3rd OG, with a young gun taking over his spot. He might even have to retire bf 2012 if his knees dont heal up well.

    Chen Jin with his chronic back injury doesnt look like the one to "challenge" the spot, either by design or strategy of Team China.

    As others have mentioned LD still can take over the WR#1 by participating more & winning titles & LCW doesnt do well in 2010 , why means LCW losing the spot sometime after August 2010? Since LD didnt participate in quite a number of SS this year, in 2010 there's no reduction of his points as he's starting on a new slate. Is that right?

    Another scenario would be the frenzy of participation starts after the start OG qualification, and if LD wins loads of titles from mid 2011 (barring any serious injuries, that kinda stuff). Then,LD would be back as WR#1 latest by end of 2011 ???
    So, in most ppl's minds should still be LD, CJ or CHina young gun will be 2nd in the running.
    Indonesia's Simon Santoso is still young but also has his injury problems, he may move up WR#3 or 4 but I dont forsee Simon able to gather the points needed to be WR#1.
     
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    This thread is to question if LCW can remain as the BWF World No.1 until the 2012 OG

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    This thread is to question if LCW can remain as the BWF World No.1 until the 2012 OG.
    If not, then we are interested in who is going to topple him.

    This thread is not about how BWF Ranking System works.
    It's assumed that most BCers understand how it works. If not, perhaps this link could be enlightening: click here
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    Much respect has to be given to the CHN team

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    Yes, much respect has to be given to the CHN team. We don't know what LYB is planning. They are what some termed them as "Sleeping Giants", because they are strong and powerful, but somehow taking it easy. Although participating in lesser tournaments recently, they are always serious at their training sessions and they are ready (on call) for action anytime.

    Some BCers mentioned that because of their lack of tournament participation, that they could regress. But I don't think so. This is because there are many higher standard professional players inside China. With their higher standard of players and programs, CHN could, without problems, grab the top ranking positions within a few tournaments.

    But this should not discourage the other nations. Other nations have their own programs as well.

    However, it still comes back to the 4 stronger nations, namely, DEN, INA, MAS and KOR to prepare to do battle with CHN.

    You'll never know. Suddenly another talented PG, TH and LCW could arrive at the scene, within a year or two.

    :):):)
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    1st,bwf rules say that world number one SHOULD have major title?:confused:
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    2nd,are lcw is the world number one in bwf ranking system?:confused:
    YES
    3rd,does this thread asking/questioning about lcw world ranking position?:confused:
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    4th,so does it relate to bwf world ranking system?:confused:
    YES
    5th.can we discuss bwf world ranking system in this thread?:confused:
    YES
     
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    Your reasoning in 4 and 5 don't work.

    If it did, anything related to Chong Wei's rank would be within the ambit of this thread's title. For instance: the people who devised the ranking system.

    This thread poses a direct question:
    Will Chong Wei retain his current rank until London 2012?

    If you must dissect the (BWF Ranking) System, please do so elsewhere :)
     
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    erm,u mean:lcw world number 1 ranking have nothing to do with bwf world ranking system?:confused:
     

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