Is BAM going in the right direction?

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  1. ngkt67

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    Yonex also need to go out, change either to Apacs or Victors equipments sponsorship...
    Li Ning's too expensive... only the very delevoped counntries like Singapore affort to have this brand as sponsorship...
     
  2. limsy

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    huh?
    u dont even need to pay a sen to yonex or lining for sponsorship
    so it not the matter of developed country or not
     
  3. eaglehelang

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    Not only Nadzmi, the other 'politicians' who have been causing the mess.
    So, are you hoping we dont do well in OG(for baddy) so that NCC will have to resign? If not, the coaches will resign & NCC will have to coach, pity the players

    Racket sponsor, I think ngkt means the consumers. The brand will consider according to market demand
     
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  4. limsy

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    nadzmi and ng chin cai hint to leave bam
    read carefully about the report in the star,hehe
    they want to ran away from the responsibility of failure

    why they need to run?hehe
    see how rashid stay save and secure in bam despite failure of project 2012?
    the reason behind he always yawning might because he cant sleep well and u know why
    haha
     
  5. eaglehelang

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    I know, that's why. I read another article that NCC said he will resign if Msia fail in OG, the Star one is toned down version;);)
    Esp since Datuk LCW is injured, the OG gold dream is considered gone, it wouldnt be coming from badminton
     
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    The writing has been on the wall for sometime that both Malaysia and Indonesia are losing ground to other more deserving badminton powers.
    Both countries have to be realistic that their glory days are coming to an end, simply because they are just not good enough. Those glory days were during times when there was almost very little competition. With today's tougher competition they are exactly where they are now-going downwards.
    So stop blaming others for the countries' downfall. Maybe we all should look at the dna and culture of the peoples of these countries. What do they have that Malaysians and Indonesians lack? Putting the blame on players, coaches, badminton federations, officials, etc. is running away from wanting to know the truth.
    In fact Japan and soon Taiwan will leave both Malaysia and Indonesia behind. Japan has already replaced both Indonesia and Malaysia in both sexes.
     
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    hehe
    he must be cursing lcw that made his millions dollar fly away
     
  8. eaglehelang

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    [h=2]RAZIF Sidek has blasted the BA of Malaysia (BAM) for blaming its players for the Thomas Cup failure.[/h]

    Razif, a member of the 1992 Thomas Cup winning team, feels that BAM officials, including president Datuk Seri Nadzmi Salleh and secretary Ng Chin Chai, must take responsibility for the disappointment in Wuhan, China.
    He also did not spare coach Tan Kim Her, saying he should be accountable for the poor performance of the doubles as he didn't show he was in control and lacked the confidence in playing his best pairs.
    Known as one of the world's best doubles players in his heyday, Razif said BAM must make drastic changes with immediate effect to stop the country's plunging badminton fortunes.
    The changes, said Razif, should begin with BAM getting a chief coach with full authority to take charge of the national team.
    "It is a shame that Malaysia didn't qualify for the semi-finals. BAM didn't learn after the 2010 Thomas Cup and the country has dropped further down. They must take responsibility and start changing their entire set-up," said Razif when contacted in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.
    "Olympics is Olympics but they don't have to wait for it to finish but start preparing for the future immediately.
    "The idea of a high performance director is not working and it is high time they appointed a chief coach. The current batch of coaches have lost direction and they need a head to guide them.
    "However, BAM must give the chief coach the full mandate to make decisions without interference and a timeframe must be set for him to achieve targets. Failing which, he must be accountable and ready to face the music.
    "Lee Chong Wei's injury should not be blamed for the failure. The doubles' lack of confidence to face the challenge with their original partners is also not a good excuse.
    "The coaches must take responsibility because they make the final decision, not the players in a team event. If the players say they are not confident, it is Kim Her's duty to urge them to fight.
    "The president, secretary and the coaching and training committee must be responsible for what has taken place and they should think seriously about giving new people a chance to run the association. You don't have to wait for another failure in the Olympics before starting a total overhaul."
    Kwan Yoke Meng, another member of the triumphant 1992 Thomas Cup team, said the wrong strategy cost Malaysia the match against Denmark, and this resulted in the team facing an impossible mission against China.
    He stressed that the idea of having a chief coach will only work if he is given a free hand to implement his plans.
    "It was wrong strategy against Denmark. They didn't have faith in the second and third singles, and that's the reason the doubles were probably reshuffled," said Yoke Meng.
    "In the end, Liew Daren and Hafiz Hashim won despite Chong Wei's injury. We could still have won had the doubles played with their full strength.
    "They should have gone with their regular pairs or at least promote Goh V Shem-Lim Khim Wah and allow Tan Boon Heong-Hoon Thien How to play second doubles and it could have given them one point.

    "Having a chief coach is good only if he is given the authority to run the entire team. The men's and women's squads must be under one umbrella and he has to be the one who calls the shots.
    "The chief coach must be accountable. If there are failures, he must go. We cannot be calling for the heads of all the coaches every time we fail. It is not practical."
    To Nadzmi, the post of chief coach is outdated but it has worked wonders for Malaysia's rivals. China, South Korea, Japan and Denmark have thrived because of having a chief coach while Indonesia, though doing poorly at the moment, could rise again as they have a respectable head coach in the legendary Christian Hadinata.
    BAM officials have said they are willing to listen to suggestions but it should not stop at just being lip service.
     
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    [h=1]BADMINTON: BAM needs magic pill[/h]
    WUHAN: MAGIC potions only exist in fairy tales but the BA of Malaysia (BAM), after a disastrous Thomas Cup outing, will need to find one quickly to avoid another embarrassment in the Olympics.
    BAM, as always, placed all its eggs in one basket and had been comfortably riding on the success of Lee Chong Wei for the last three years, foolishly failing to invest in any sound plans to unearth talents.
    Come July, the world will know how thin Malaysia's resources are if they return empty-handed from London.


    The pressure has been immense on Chong Wei and, to no one's surprise, took its toll on the player and while the nation will be praying for his speedy recovery and presence in the Olympics, two months may be too short a period for him to regain the form which has earned him close to 40 international titles.
    It would be foolish at this stage to expect Chong Wei to win a medal in the Olympics even if he competes but such is the situation that has been created by BAM that there is no other singles player or pair to fall back on when needed.
    Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, going by their recent form, will struggle to navigate the group stage.
    Boon Heong is understood to have lost faith in the combination but has no choice but to give it a shot but he could looking for a new partner after the Olympics.
    As for Kien Keat, the 27-year-old has his future in his hands and must learn to stop giving all kinds of excuses and let his badminton do the talking.
    This can only happen if he is willing to work harder and adopt a disciplined lifestyle.
    The predicament Chong Wei and Kien Keat-Boon Heong find themselves in is only the tip of the iceberg, and the BAM management, if it's not beyond them, must deal with major issues in order to become a powerhouse again.
    BAM can forget about China because Lin Dan and company are streets ahead but the parent body must admit that Malaysia are now behind the likes of South Korea, Denmark, Indonesia and even Japan.
    What's even worse is that Thailand could prevent Malaysia qualifying for the Thomas Cup Finals in 2014.
    BAM must act quickly and for starters should get rid of the four-member high performance team and revert to having a head coach for the national team.
    There is no denying, and BAM officials know this, that the national team structures of China, South Korea, Japan and Denmark are solid and this is due to them having just one head coach.
    Indonesia believe in this structure and should their influential Christian Hadinata decide to call it a day, they can easily find another former international who can revive their fortunes.
    Furthermore, the Indonesians have a proud badminton tradition and it will only be a matter of time before a new set of players take over the mantle from the likes of Taufik Hidayat and Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan.
    The BAM management, for reasons known only to them, has four different chief coaches for the national team and the set-up is just not working.
    It is about time BAM did it the old fashion way and appoint one chief coach who will call the shots, control the players and attend to their needs, monitor the coaches' progress and most importantly, willing to take the responsibility.
    BAM must address its failures first before moving forward and then come up with concrete changes, and a revised and effective long-term programme which does not only exist on paper.
    With the financial resources BAM has, a good development programme at state level can be started which in turn will strengthen the national coaching structure.
    But BAM needs to know what must be done first. Its officials cannot rest on their laurels and expect things to remain rosy.
     
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    very well said.

    what Korean and Japanese have (dunno whether that's what some countries are lacking), is hardwork, determination, discipline and fighting spirit. to complement that, they also have a very strong leadership to guide the players to success. you need both to succeed.
     
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    I am rubbing salt into wounds. aha..

    How can a freaking super fat guy playing in Thomas cup for Malaysia? It's like putting LYB son in the team. lol. ;) No pun intended for HTH. Am just curious about his fattiness. ;)
     
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    instead of saying fat guy playing in Thomas Cup, this remind another fat guy playing in thomas cup few years ago, and that person is INA's Eddy Hartono (partner Rudy Gunawan)...
     
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    Razif Sidek seems so cocksure that he has found the problem with Malaysia's failure. Look at it this way-it is people like him who prescribes the wrong medicine. You don't believe me? Then why not ask him to take up the 'Zhu Rong Chee' (China's fromer Premier) solution? Premier Zhu was so pissed off by the constant crashes of Chinese passenger planes that he forced the Chairman of every Chinese airline company to be on all subsequent Chinese planes. It solved the problem.
    So Razif Sidek should be appointed Chief coach. Success will bring untold riches, but failure should be punished the Zhu way.
    Now, what is as simple as that?
    On a more realistic note, both Indonesia and Malaysia must accept the cruel truth that they are simply not good enough. It is not the national organizations, the coaches, players, officials who are to blame. It is the quality of the peoples of the countries, which also are responsible for their countries' performances in all spheres of human endeavour-economic, education, sports, their place in the sun.
     
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    Agreed with you man. Just like some young punks that likes fat people to play. What a smart mentality. ;) lol.
     
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    Exhibition game. lol. ;)
     
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    and not a single person mentioned that Thailand can even put a young womens team through to the semifinals.. i think this is the most telling and important reason, why BAM is a complete and abject failure...
     
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    Razif's comments are right to some extend especially the suggestions of a chief coach but is there an ulterior motive? How come he didn't say anything about his brother, Rashid's contribution?
     
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    this is not good
    try ask how misbun think about rashid
     
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    You reckon brothers/siblings will give negative opinions about each other. Unlikely.

    Rashid's presence is not worth the tax money the Rakyat forked out. The same for Tey Seu Bock.

    Plenty of enthusiasm, hot air and gestures but no quality as a coach.

    In cantonese, Mo Liew To
     
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    Why all the gloom and doom? Not everyone sees it this way. As Li Yong Bo just commented we are seeing new blood coming on board to replace the two declining old powers, which is good for the future of world badminton.
    With new faces badminton can expect exciting times ahead.
    Of course Malaysia and Indonesia will be around, initially as second tier powers and then gOd only knows what!

    Do you know the implications of appointing a Chief Coach with full authority over the national team?
    Before you can blink an eye, half the treasure chest is gone. Full authority must come with full power for it to work, and they will be meaningless without having sole control over money.
     

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