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Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by clearng, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. ghooga

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    Looks pretty much the same as a T200. I have 2 new T200 myself. Wonder if there's a need for myself to get a T300 :p
    From my experience using T200, it's a very friendly racket for both singles and doubles. The elbow pain that you're getting could be due to the higher tension that you're not accustomed to.
     
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    It's been said that the T200 = T300, with a different paint job. The same has been said of the L60 and L70. One thing I don't like about apacs is that they aren't clear AND consistent when it comes to differentiating these sort of things.

    EDIT: I think an "apacs UK" fellow said that the L70 is an improvement over the L60 because it has a more stable T-joint (that is, the T-joint is made slightly differently and is more optimised for greater stability). I really don't know if this is true, and it seems strange to make an apparently "new" racket and ONLY change it slightly. With regards to the T200 and T300, I remember reading where some "apacs distributor" apparently e-mailed someone saying that the T300 is made differently and was more robust than the T200. This "apacs distributor" also wrote that T200 could only take 30 pounds of tension, while the T300 could take 35 pounds of tension. However, this simply didn't make any sense, as the T200 clearly states that it can take 35 pounds of tension too. Anyway, very frustrating indeed. It would be great if a formal apacs representative, who knows what he's talking about, came here and straightened things out for us with no bullshi*.
     
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    That's why I gave him my opinion from my T200 experience.
     
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    Oh yes... light rackets (5U) shook my bones of the entire arm starting from finger joints. the semi lights (4U) did the same expect I did not feel that my finger will fall off :). The 3U like T200 has much less, though it hurts my elbow when I hit slightly off from the sweet spot. The VH 1700 has almost none why I like it the most; the VH1800 has almost none from the frame same like 1700 but I feel something is coming from the grip area. May be some sort of vibration node resulting from the impact on the frame.

    I have been doing weights, I would say heavy for more than 15 yrs. I also do weights specifically to improve badminton skills now. But this elbow ache has decreased my capability a lot. Now I could not lift 50lbs dumbbell anymore. I stay at 35lbs. My bench press has reduced to 110 from 150. Very sad situation over here :(
     
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    I can imagine that addiction :p I used to play almost everyday before I took up a post-grad program. Having to juggle between work and study at the same time isn't easy. Slowly I find that addiction isn't that tempting anymore. Still, badminton is the most effective sports that help me get into shape especially after every 45 min non-stop run on the treadmill. Going from 150 to 110 lbs on the bench press is a big downgrade I have to say :(
     
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    Pity that you find so much vibration. At least you have found the rackets that work best for you though.

    I have never had elbow ache in my life, and I've been playing badminton for many years with a wide variety of rackets. Perhaps you may want to look at your technique. Otherwise, I hope things get better for you soon!
     
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    I started playing only for 4 months once a week and developed tennis elbow already. Must be poor technique of mine I guess.
     
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    I think better to start with flexible racket.
     
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    hello txv611, last time i had some problems with matches at sports hall straining elbow after jus a few hours play, but after searching youtube those national players coaching video, found out that if u use right technique, u'll be okay, as for me i am alright now so hope it helps you

    flexible or stiff racket does not affect the elbow much, but the arm, if u cant play with stiff racket, change to a flexible one, what is the best racket for anyone?

    It is one that a person can comfortably & easily play badminton with it without any problems during or after playing badminton.
     
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    which video - could you please give us some details?
     
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    Has anyone tried the Visible Hollow 2020? I've been told it has the same specs as the Visible Hollow 1700, 1800, and 2000? I'm a bit surprised that Dinkalot gave the VH1800 such a high recommendation ("one of the best rackets ever"), and I'm just curious about it. I see that he gave the Lethal 50 (similar or the same as the 60,70) and Tantrum 200 (similar or the same as the 300) excellent reviews too, which is good to see.
     
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    I posted a comparison between T200/VH1700/VH1800 and others at the bottom of page 229. I will get VH2000 soon and update that table. Specs are not same among these rackets. VH1800 is very very powerful. It also has a great repulsion; may be because of Ti in the shaft. VH2020 is same as VH2000.
     
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    Earlier I read your post incorrectly. Yes, VH2000 has the same specifications as VH2020.
     
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    It's been said that the Visible Hollow shaft is the same as the Lethal 60/70 shaft.
     
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    Happy to know that it has some of APACS best technical upgrades … So it is just not a stunt, and it really has Ti .. & I got it for less price .... it is even making me happier.
     
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    I am wondering can high tension create elbow pain for someonw who has good techniques? Or is elbow pain purely a poor technique thing?
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua0OH9e8OZk can go search this user videos, how you should hold, relax the racket and hit with good techniques, it is very useful as basic techniques are the first thing to learn when u play badminton. It has full collection of all techniques with human demonstration.

    txv611, i am not sure high tension would be bad for your elbow, how high? 25,26 or 30? i am using 25-26, no much problem arise, if you think you cant handle 27-30 better dun, cos not all players can play such a high tension and stiff racket
     

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