REVIEW: Alpha Shuttle Express Stringing Machine

Discussion in 'Badminton Stringing Techniques & Tools' started by kwun, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. cooler

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    if they throw in more features, then price goes up, then people can go buy other brands/models as well
     
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    are they compatible ? :D
     
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    True, more features = higher premium, however for that set up i think id be comfortable paying the cost.

    Unfortunately it doesnt seem like the AEF/ASE mounts are compatible with the easy-3 system. The easy 3 seems to use a base platform that lays horizontal, where as the AEF/ASE bar is horizontal. I think if I cant think up a way to make it work, i mite just get an ASE. This drop weight business is taking waaay too long, and I thought it mite be reasonably portable, but its heavy like a rock, or a 45lb gym weight, but a more awkward shape :(

    Im open to suggestions on making the mounts fit an easy 3...im thinking a custom bar for the ASE...we'll see how it goes.
     
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    Sorry, I do not understand what you are say there.

     
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    getting the easy-3 turntable and mounting it on the ASE is not very economical way to do it. why don't you just get an easy-3 instead? the rest of the system is not that much different.

    i am going to give putting in a fixed clamp onto the ASE some thoughts. i think it is doable. though the end result might not be as flexible as the easy-3 one.

    i am not really concern about clamping main 11. i am more concern about main 1.
     
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    The easy-3's rotating platform has the wide part of the bar horizontal, where as on the ASE it is vertical. I dont know how else to say it, take a look at both machines and you will understand. Im talking about the piece the base that rotates.
     
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    one way to do it, is to look for the part from your flex 740. unscrew one of the fixed clamp + its rail, and then somehow mount the rail on the ASE's horizontal bar.
     
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    Oh okay, I see you want to do a swap of the mounting system. Actually, the Easy-3 with modified head and throat supports will out string (uber high tension) than a regular ASE :D.

     
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    lol I know... don't worry... old joke :D
     
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    a few things i have changed after stringing 10 rackets.

    - the side support don't have enough clearance to thread a string that is directly in the middle of the support. i shaved off part of the plastic padding to get more clearance.

    - the 12/6 o'clock support slips. that didn't give a lot of confidence. i grinded down the plastic padding to give it a little curve for the racket to sit in.

    - i tried using load spreader on both 6/12 o'clock position. that unfortunately allows too much lateral racket movements which is totally scary with thousands on pounds pulled on the head. i ended up abandoning the throat one and only use it for the top

    - the string cutter that comes with the ASE is total cheapo crap. i bought a new one from the hardware store, works 100 times better

    - the long nose pliers that comes with the ASE is OK. but i replaced it with a nicer thinner pair of needle nose pliers. seems better at getting to the tight spaces.

    i am still waiting for my fish scale to arrive so i can do some calibration.
     

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    To me, I never trusted any string cutter, since I damaged 1 pack of string when i cut the string by mistake once. I prefer a well built nail cutter better. :)
     
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    WISE + ASE = WASE !

    you guys are BAD BAD influence. :mad: :mad: :mad:

    ;) :D

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    Hi Kwun, you are doing exactly what I have on my mind. I'm glad its possible.
    I have HQ portable stringing machine from mybadmintonstore (which look very similar to the one you have. what modification you do to fit the Tennishead? does it works well with it? I'm so tempted now :(

    Edit: by the way can the racket spin 360 degree? when I measure my bar to the racket shaft I got about 170mm but from DinkAlot's photo it need 212-215mm from bar to shaft?
     
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    the poison keep spreading.. muhaha...

    the WISE as you see, fits perfectly in terms of size. two things i had to do:

    - swap the position of the leg and the turntable as you can see from the photo to give it enough space.
    - don't use the default mounting bracket, that save you around 27mm of vertical. that bracket don't fit the SE anyway.
    - drill 2-3 holes to match the WISE mounting holes. find matching nuts for the mounting bolt. the bolts through the holes is enough to secure the WISE to the horizontal bar securely.

    i will post some pics tonight.

    the combination is awesome. it is as tiny as you can get with a badminton specific ECP machine. i only strung one racket with it @ 23/25.

    as for 360 rotation. yes and no. when the racket is sitting flush on the table, it is short by around 2mm. i had to lift the racket up by jacking up the side support, that give around 1-2mm clearance. OK, but not ideal.

    i believe the HQSE is also a suspension mount machine like the ASE. so you should be able to do the same to get 360. if you have a clamp down mounting then it will take more work to get that.
     
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    This is what happens when an experiment turns into an ideal machine..

    kwun's ASE machine *BEFORE*..
    and *AFTER*...
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    ..and i think kwun would now rate his machine a 10 out of 10???..:confused: ;):cool:
     
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    still 9 out of 10. :D

    the rating is weighted according to the cost. now the cost more than doubled and i still don't have fixed clamps. so the rating remains the same.
     
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    ^^How about a 9.5???..^^

    ...okay, how about a 9.5 out of 10???...I'm sure you're more generous than that...;)

    But, wow, if the cost to build this hybrid WASE machine is more than buying a WISE..hmmm??..
     
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    i call that a pocket rocket:p
    A pro stringing machine that can be lifted with 1 finger;)
    Solid enough for a few generations to come;)
     
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    nah. :)

    WASE = WISE + ASE.

    all costs are +ve, so yes, yours is a true statement.
     

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