BAM warns Mohd Hafiz Hashim & Kuan Beng Hong

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  1. koo_fan

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    Some may argue on how corruption is affecting the sport. But, I found this, could be fishy
    Take a look at two of the most honest countries going according to Transparency International (Denmark and Sweden), in the 2004 European Cup, they played each other. Provided the score was 2-2 they both went through, and knocked Italy out of their group due to goal difference. The dividend for a 2-2 score is normally 15.0. It dropped to 6.50. The final score….??

    At least, at least these two nations had talent pool, AND, decent supportive infrastructure.
    Corruption isn't unique. No matter how much you hate the term, it happens anywhere, It's unique here in Malaysia because it started at a far earlier stage of development in the field. and we asked why is there one and only LCW fighting for us?

    But, to condemn hafiz and his likes for their survival in national team, you're barking up the wrong tree. *i'm not obsessed of keeping them*
    sack them, but make sure we have better players as for replacement.
    Malaysia, should do better in supporting the deserving players.
     
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    In malaysia, different story.

    Opporturnity is given according to quota, special rights, and ethics. I am curious - why there is no even 1 chinese player in the first-eleven of mas team. And only 1-2 Indian players in the team. Majority players are Malays.:rolleyes:

    Is it really chances given to players equally in FAM? I dont think so.
     
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    For Chinese & Indian players, do you know some of 'em whose skills are quite decent, decent enough to claim their places in the national team?
    If the answer is 'No', then FAM do the right thing.
     
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    The debate goes on between this 2 players?:p
     
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    Talented players who have the determination to work hard at training can excel

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    This is what I believe.

    To be a top Badminton player, firstly he/she must be talented in it. Then comes his/her determination to work hard at training to excel in it.

    We can see talented players lazy at training, and they don't get to the top. We can also see 'not so talented' players working hard with determination at training, and they also don't get to the top.

    So, only talented players who have the determination to work hard at training can excel in Badminton.
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    Thats what Taufik say during the interview, they asked if he let his daughter playing badminton, but he answered it depends if she had talent, if she do then go on....
    Well, even talented people start from newbie, they cant suddenly be a good player.It depends on how (hard) we develop our skill too ...
     
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    Hafiz make it to the next stage ..
     
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    I still recall when a reporter ask Misbun "What it takes to be World Champion"

    "Bakat... Bakat... Bakat..." (Talent talent talent)

    Hardwork can take you to certain level but u need TALENT to be world champion. But of cause Talent without hardword is ZERO!
     
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    Then Misbun himself is 'no-talent player' since he also didnt ever won the WC.
     
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    2009 Denmark Open Super Series: Muhammad Hafiz Hashim gone in Round 2

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    This Round 2 match has just completed. And the outcome: Not good. :(:(:(

    Marc Zwiebler[​IMG][GER] defeated [​IMG][MAS] Muhammad Hafiz Hashim 16-21, 21-17, 21-18 in 59 mins.
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    HH is unbelievable. Leading 16:4 in the 3rd game and finally lost 18:21. Of course, he has done this before, in 2006 AG, he led LHI 19:9 in the first and then lost the match (Something like 6:21 in the 2nd game). But of course, LHI is like two levels above Zwiebler... :cool:

     
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    2009 Denmark Open Super Series: Marc Zwiebler defeated Wong Choong Hann in Round 1

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    But we should give credits to Marc Zwiebler and the rising standard of Badminton Germany.

    Yesterday, at Round 1, Marc Zwiebler defeated Wong Choong Hann [Seeded 4] 21-18, 18-21, 21-12 in 53 mins.
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    yeah, this HH is unbelievable..remember this word:cool:
     
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    HH is unbelievable

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    If HH is known as Mr. Yo-yo, then it's believable.
    You are smart to not PAW for him. ;););)
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    3 more ss for Hafiz ..
     
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    and more and more and more in 2010 :cool::cool:
     
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    Can HH perform better at the 2009 French Open SS?

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    Let's see if HH can perform better at the 2009 French Open SS (click here).

    HH will be facing Ng Wei (from Hong Kong) in Round 1.
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    Please ...

    Dont try to justify the wishy washy stuff going on in Malaysia by comparing a football match between Denmark & Sweden. They are light years ahead of us. People will laugh.

    Malu.
     
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    HH for our TC squad next year??

    We have a nice little scenario here.

    Lets be honest, we aint going to win the TC next year, period.

    What we need to do is make the best out of our TC outing.

    Are we going to include HH or even KBH into our TC squad? Given the poor quality of shuttlers in our backyard, I believe most likely we will have no choice but to go with HH ... or KBH .... or both (so that they can hold each other's hands).

    So, the reality is we aint going to win ... maybe making the semis this time may be a challenge. Despite having home ground advantage and easy access to teh tarik, nasi lemak bungkus, papadam, milo ais, the world tallest flag pole being a mere 40 minute drive from the stadium, etc ... we will still come out short.

    But ... BAM can make Malaysians happy since we got nothing to lose.

    I mean, HH and KBH have participated in previous TCs before. Why not give others a chance?? And I am not talking about our back up or juniors or elite back up shuttlers. I am saying why dont BAM do something like American Idol to find two shuttlers to fill the MS#2 & MS#3 slots? I am sure thousands of Malaysians + Indonesians,Banglas,Vietnamese etc with red identity cards will attend. The format should be similar to American Idol i.e. audition a few thousands and select about 30 and then run a series of elimination rounds. The best 2 goes straight into our TC squad.

    If doing the reality do is out of BAM's budget, then why dont we recognise our past shuttlers and give them the two slots. I am sure there are many uncles, aunties, grandpas & grandmas out there who would love to see greats like Tan Yee Khan or James Selvaraj making a comeback.

    Yes ... yes .. we may get a beating if we do any of the two above ... but heck ... with HH and KBH, we are still going to get a beating and a nose bleed in our own backyard. So, why not make the fans happy and get a beating at the same time?
     
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    HH and KBH are done,...BAM shdnt keeping them and takes away chances for the back ups to expose in SS tourneys............
     
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