ANNOUNCEMENT: new Karma system

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  1. LazyBuddy

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    Karma is another reference, just as post count, age, english language standard, etc. It's a matter that the reader pick who s/he should trust, especially in some special forums, such as "market place" or "place to play". I would rather trust a local newbie's gym opening hours, coaching fees and gym rentals, rather than someone from another region, who has no idea about the local situation.
     
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    yeah, i'm still not sure how much value this all adds to the forum. ok, i can understand that if i'm new, and am in desperate need for advice, the karma system might be a quick and straightforward indicator of whose opinion is more likely to be trustworthy. however, i think that once you've visited the site longer enough, ie perhaps have read about 100 posts or so, you'd have formed your own opinions about the posters here, especially the regular ones.

    for me, i have a list in my head of members whose opinions i hold in higher regard than the general population. some based on what they've contributed in the past, some simply based on the fact that their tastes/preferences are similar to mine, hence if they like something, chances are i will too.

    some people i just like/dislike because i'm
    1) racist
    2) sexist
    3) ageist
    4) weightist
    5) intellectist
    6) languagist
    7) otherist .... please specify

    (please circle as many as appropriate)

    :p
     
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  3. DinkAlot

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    Can I just save time and do one big circle for all of the above? :p...;)...:D:D:D

    P.S. "Otherist" is very witty and new material for me. Positive karma for you for coming up with that word! LMAO! :p

     
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    hahaha, cheers, i was thinking about how many bigotries there were out there, well, mental block after 6 so i thought i'd just wrap them all up into 1. in fact, the 6th is a bit iffy as well.
     
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    How could the concept of racism influence your style of play ie. offensive vs defensive?
     
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    well, if i'm playng against someone of a race i don't like, then i get more offensive! :p

    before you guys flame me, let me say that i'm just kidding. i meant to say that being a bigot makes me like others less according to the list (which again is another joke, i'm not really like that, you believe me, right? :eek:).
     
  7. wilfredlgf

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    How could the difference in gender influence your preference of the NSS over the OSS?
     
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    ah, that one's easy ...
    playing with women is always more fun, hence i prefer longer games when playing with them, hence i prefer the OSS when playing against women and NSS when playing against men.

    again, i'm not being serious, i'm convinced wilfred here is trying to get my banned or trying to get others to bomb my inbox with hate mail.
     
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    How could the generation gap influence your preferred string tension?

    How could a player of different weight influence what sort of shuttle you prefer?

    How could the language tendencies of the other person determine your view of Lin Dan?

    ...

    Of course I'm just taking the piss but as you can that see most bigotry are simply that, unreasonable. :)
     
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    If you get banned for daring to form an opinion or being different than the lemmings on here then they don't deserve you at all. ;)
     
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    1) playing against older folk who are more experienced, i need to be quicker and faster so generally a higher string tension.

    2) playing against heavier folk, i prefer a faster shuttle so i can win points by forcing them to run around more.

    3) i understand english a lot more than, say, russian so predominantly english speakers (or writers as the case may be) will get through to me more effectively and hence potentially influence my views more.

    of course bigotry is unreasonable, otherwise we wouldn't be having so many problems in the world today .... :cool:
     
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    great though, i haven't been flamed yet, so i'm guess we're alright. though we are going way off topic now ....
     
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    I can't agree more than these above. ;) Reference is reference, the confort level, only yourself know.
     
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    It is not best that we should all think alike

    Greetings folks,

    For me, to look at a member's postcount, we have to get into more details. :):):)

    For a member's postcount, we need to find out more about what category/section of our forums that that member is most emotional/passionate and/or have most knowledge in.

    Some of our members are found to have great knowledge and to be very emotional/passionate in Tournaments, some in Techniques & Training, some in Equipments, some in Market Place, etc...

    But a member with better knowledge in Equipments & Market Place might not know what is good for Techniques & Training, etc...

    And so, if we are to assume that this member(with high postcount), when commenting on Technique & Training, should be reliable when he/she is commenting on it... we might be misled. :eek::eek::eek:

    Anyway, you might all know that I am most emotional/passionate about promoting the NSS, and to move away from the OSS. And guess what, I was given negative karma because I defended the NSS. :crying::crying::crying:

    But then again... It is not best that we should all think alike. :):):)


    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
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    yeah, i guess that is the weakness of this karma thingy. people who gives out bad karma simply because they dont agree with the other person's argument. we should only give out bad karma for posts that are in bad taste and maybe have personal attack or lots of swearing. but that is just my opinion. :)
     
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    What she said.

    (+) karma for good arguments on subject matter - nothing on behaviour, otherwise we'll see lots ... *trying to find a polite word for shoe shining* going on to become popular

    (-) karma for contentious posts ie. character attack, personal abuse, racist, sexist, ageist, weightist... ;)

    (0) karma for neutral and speculative posts that don't warrant (-) or (+) karma points

    Karma points is good to establish the 'knowledge aura' of the person rather than how nicely they behave or how many expensive racquets are in their possession.

    (-) karma points can serve to warn others about this person's credibility whilst chronic cases would've been dealt with by the mods themselves already.

    Still, mods can change karma points to reduce or balance the (-) if it is done as abuse, especially if one person's view is not necessarily contentious but controversial enough to get some (-) points from certain members of the forum. One person might mean well but others who don't share his ideas may be (-)ved for being different.
     
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    Just noticed that I got just about all karma points from the karma thread.

    I'll probably be reborn as a byte-size positive charge.
     
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    Every system can be abused by certain individuals, as they don't understand the system themselves. Feel sorry for you, but myself more than willing to see your posts, even though, I am a die-hard supporter for OSS (especially for lower level tournaments). :p
     
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    chris@ccc is still playing the OSS

    Hi wilfredlgf,

    Disagree. :):):)

    Even foolish arguments are right sometimes.

    Mixing a little foolishness with some seriousness, at the right time, can be wonderful.

    Agree. :):):)

    Badminton Central is not a place for character attack, personal abuse, racist, sexist, ageist, weightist...


    But let us be grateful for any point raised by a poster with little knowledge of a subject matter.

    Any point raised by a poster may trigger off interesting debates for the rest of our BC'ers later. :)


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    Hi LazyBuddy,

    Based on the latest poll today, 4-Aug-2007, NSS(43%) is still behind your OSS(57%).

    However, if I am possessed of the idea that NSS is better for Badminton in the long run, I can't help but to express myself what is so good about the NSS. :):):)

    In Melbourne, Australia, I would say that 99% of our players are still continuing playing the OSS. So... you could guess it, that I am still playing the OSS. :):):)

    Anyway, the OSS is the system that I played with when I was first introduced to Badminton. And I know how to use the OSS, and enjoy it to the fullest. :p:p:p

    Cheers... chris@ccc
     
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    Why would an argument be foolish if it is good? Perhaps you were looking at the appearance of the argument, whilst I am more towards the gist of message itself.
     
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