Badminton Nutrition

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  1. KazeCloud

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    Thanks for you concern Gollum. I'll try and schedule and appointment, but my parents work at office hours and its going to be hard for them to leave early. The western doctors always just prescribe pain killers anyways. Taking my Glucosomine tablets and resting seems to be working, there is much less pain.

    I'll also try to ask some P.E teachers, since I heard they all major in biology and is probably well informed about physical activities.
     
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  2. Loh

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    I thought you should take a balanced diet EVERYDAY! :D

    You seem to like meat a lot but don't like vegetables. Meat, especially lean meat will provide the protein for building especially your muscle I suppose, but FRUITS and vegetables are also important to give you a variety of vitamins necessary for a more thorough development of your body. You seem to be missing out a great deal on the latter.

    Your breakfast seem to me to be okay and if you can last your day's activities without fatigue, it would appear you had enough calories of cabohydrates found in your bread and rice. Each of us is different and depending on our build, the type of activities we perform, we consume differently in amounts and variety.

    Just my general observation but I'm sure nutrioutlet will be able to give a better advice.

    BTW, where is your place? Mississauga - which country I mean? :)
     
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    Hi nutiroutlet

    I referred to one of your links and saw a picture of a powerful lady just above another of a man doing weightlifting.

    Could I assume the lady is you and that you are into weightlifting as well? :)

    I know there are different weight classes in this sport and wonder which class you belong if you're indeed into weightlifting.

    This sport is a test of strength and strength mainly comes from your muscles, apart from technique. Is it why you recommend whey and creatine above all else?

    What happens if a weightbuilder or a bodybuilder should stop training. Will his muscle let him down and his body will turn into a 'sagging' look? What is the minimum that such an athlete should do to make sure this will not happen? :)
     
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    The following is about nutrition from the "Fundamentals of Sports Injury Management" jointly written by 3 people, namely the Director, Athletic Training Program, Bridgewater College, Massachusetts, an Assistant Professor, Dept of Movement Arts Health Promotion of the same college, and a Professor of Biomechanics, California State University, Northridge, California :
    QUESTION : Think for a minute or two how nutrition can influence the repair and healing process of damaged tissue. Can an individual return to peak performance without the necessary energy sources?

    ANSWER : Proper nutrition for an active individual is essential to provide the necessary nutrients to perform work. In addition, extended inactivity can result in a slight weight gain, placing additional stress on injured joint structures. As such, cardiovascular endurance activities should be initiated as soon as possible to simply burn calories.
    Carbohydrates are the main energy fuel for the body. In addition, the brain uses blood glucose almost exclusively as its fuel and does not have a stored supply of this nutrient. Although fat does provide a large store of potential energy and serves as a cushion to protect the vital organs and provide thermal insulation, it has little function in wound healing. Proteins serve a vital role in the maintenance, repair, and growth of body tissues. When carbohydrates reserves are low, the synthesis of glucose will draw upon protein, thus further draining the body's protein "stores", especially muscle protein. In extreme conditions, this can lead to a reduction in lean tissue and place an excessive load on the kidneys as they excrete the nitrogen-containing by-products of protein breakdown. Without an adequate supply of carbohydrate and protein intake, repair and healing of damaged tissues will be prolonged.
    Vitamins also play an important role in wound healing. Riboflavin (vitamin B2), pyridoxine, (vitamin B6), pantothenic acid, folacin, and vitamin B12 all aid in energy metabolism. Vitamin C maintains the intercellular matrix of cartilage, bone, and dentine, and is required for collagen secretion. A lack of vitamin C can result in deficient wound healing, evident in inferior vascularization and scanty collagen deposition. Vitamin A is necessay to maintain epithelial tissue and vitamin D promotes growth and mineralization of bones and aids in the absorption of calcium. Vitamin E prevents cell damage, and vitamin K is essential in blood clotting.
    Calcium aids in blood clotting and, coupled with sodium, is necessary for proper nerve function. Zinc is known to promote faster healing. Water is essential to transport nutrients, control thermoregulation, and aid in metabolic reactions.
    The food guide pyramid now recommends that a diet should be high in fruits, vegetables, and grains and low in fat and sugar. Under normal circumstances, this diet should provide an adequate source of carbohydrates, protein, fat, vitamins, minerals, and water to promote wound healing and prevent unnecessary weight gain. Dietary supplements are not necessary if the individual's diet is nutritionally balanced.
    In short, an injured individual must have an adequate diet that provides the nutrients necessary to enhance wound healing. In addition, a diet high in carbohydrates should supply the energy necessary to compete on a highly competitive level.
     
  5. stumblingfeet

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    The food pyramid is a ridiculous nutrition guide. If you actually eat that many grains on a regular basis, your insulin sensitivity will be shot and you'll probably be kinda fat. Is it on there because it is really a fundamental food requirement or maybe it's because the agricultural industry has a lot of influence. Just consider that humans didn't eat grains at all during preagricultural times.

    How about dairy? How can it be essential to a good diet if so many people are lactose intolerant?
     
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    You need to see better doctors then, or perhaps you just need to explain your circumstances better.

    Prescribing painkillers for a sports injury is a non-solution. They might as well say, "just don't play sport".
     
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    any ideas of a good way to put on some weight, feel the need for a bit more bulk to help my endurance. Any foods/supplements recommended for doing this?
     
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    Feel lethargic the next day? Slow recovery from the previous day's session? Muscle loss (catabolism)????

    Some simple carbs (high GI) should be taken (40g-80g+, depending on individual and the intensity of exercise) immediately (or within 1 hour) after exercise to replenish your glycogen stores, which will also help speed up recovery and gives you energy. Some protein also aids in recovery.

    Breakfast should consist of complex carbs (low GI) that releases glucose more slowly and steadily.

    Of course not forgetting that everyone's daily diet should also include protein, healthy fats, fibre, vitamins and minerals which you can get from meat, fruits and vegetables.
     
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    i have been experiencing numbness in the shoulder and arm area and prickly sensation in the tips of my fingers after i wake up from sleep on my racket playing side. i think it is bad blood circulation. what can i do to improve blood circulation in my racket playing side? is there any supplement i can take for this?
     
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    Exactly why I didn't want to see my doctor. Where would you go to find an experience sports physician...So I'm doing my best.
     
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    My diet is very close to that of the Food Pyramid, with different types of grain for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and my blood glucose is always between 4.7 to 4.9 mmol/l. I play badminton with players 10 to 50 years my junior and I can hold my own on cardiovascular fitness (doubles) with them. Twenty years ago when I was on more dairy products and meat I had difficulty on the fitness side, and by blood glucose was boderline 6.5 mmol/l and I used to have intense needle-like stabbing pains in my knees.
    The food pyramid is about a balanced diet. Yes, it is endorsed by the Dept of Agriculture and the Dept of Health & Services, both government entities. Yes, most Americans don't follow the food pyramid. That does not mean it is an incorrect representation of a balanced diet. The key is a balanced diet. A diet based on milk alone can result in a massive heart attack. There was such a case in England some years ago about a teenager who died of a heart attack from drinking massive quantities of milk. Of course milk is good but only in the proportion as indicated in the food pyramid.
    If anything, a balanced diet is very vital to any individual who plays sports. I wouldn't put my trust in any magic bottle or pill. Foods should provide all the 3 major nutrients, minerals, vitamins, water. A balanced diet, the food pyramid, is supposed to be that.
     
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    As with all nutritional and sports supplements - MOST of them improve performance in some way.

    Acid buffers like sodium phosphate for example, may improve your performance, although I do have to admit, I have never tried this myself as a lactic acid neuraliser was never needed in my training. Although other people have tried it and use it every training session.

    What I have learnt about acid buffers is that they increase the enzyme that unloads oxygen into the muscle which in turn improves the use of glycogen as fuel. It is also said that they improve the production of energy in the ATP-CP (see above comment for explaination) and oxygen systems.

    If you would like more information regarding this let me know.

    If you did want to try an acid buffer - before spending your money on an expensive product - try putting a spoonful of bicarbonate of soda in your pre workout drink and see what effect it has on your training. :D

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    Hello Crosscourt

    It is good to hear that you are eating well before your training. The consequence of not eating after would be (amongst other things) that your body would find it difficult to repair the damage that your muscles occured during your training session or badminton match.

    I would reccomend having either a recovery drink, protein shake, tin of tuna, handful of cashew nuts ect... just so your muscles are fed and nurished. Failure to do so can result in muscle mass loss. Eating after training means your muscles will repair quicker which in turn can improve your badminton game.

    As for breakfast the next day, i would advise you on a good nutritional programme. For more information contact me.

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    Kazecloud,

    I agree with Gollum, this sort of thing must been seen by a sports physician. The internet is a great way to find out information, but, when it comes to matters of this nature, I can only advise a one on one session.

    As for products that can ASISST with your recovery; Whey protein, glucosamine, a good joint supplement, EFA's and Amino Acids. I would suggest that you gain advice from your physician as to quantities ect... as he/she will know the extent of your injury.

    Do go and see a specialist!

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    Hello Omar.

    A balanced diet is a very good way of increasing performance on the badminton court. Eating every 2-3 hours also is recommended for athletes as this can help regulate your blood sugar levels.

    Having a good nutritional programme is a great idea - especially if you have the support of your family :) Researching into sports performance nutrition is also advised as knowing what is in your diet is a great way to get ahead in your game. You can get sports nutritional programmes specially written for you - this is a great way to start as following a generic plan may not work for you as every person is different, has different needs, wants, goals ect...

    Hope this helps

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    Hello Loh

    Yes that is myself and my husband (Also a world champion powerlifter). Both strength athletes, although I am training for a different sport at the moment and have been involved in many sports in my career. Please note weightlifting, powerlifting and bodybuilding are all very different sports. In the same light it is like calling badminton - tennis!!

    Whey and creatine are NOT just for strength athletes. The benefits of the two have been proven, study after study, to provide performance enhancement for nearly every single sport. Creatine as I have said in previous posts is the most widely used sports supplement WHY?? BECAUSE IT REALLY WORKS! It is not just for strength gains - please refer to previous posts for explanation.

    Strength sports give a fantastic insight into how the body responds to certain activities. Depending on the competition/event depicts how you alter your training and nutrition, which is why many successful strength athletes go into the world of training and nutrition advising other sports how to improve their performances.

    To answer your question regarding weightlifters and bodybuilders, it is very rare for either of the two (baring in mind the two are very different) to just stop training. If bodybuilders wanted to decrease their muscle mass, they would change their nutrition and training to have the desired effect on their body. It also depends on the actual person as to what he/she decides to do. As I have said before, it is the goal that is very important.

    Any athlete, including badminton players, that stops training will indefinately loose muscle mass, strength and skills. This DOES NOT mean they will look saggy! It is a combination of diet AND training alteration, and being aware of your bodies changes.

    Hope this answers your question

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  17. Omar_Zangetsu

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    Yup its mississauga. So far im in erindale high school and best at badminton and undefeated for grade 10.
     
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    thanks Nutrioutlet and you modious.
     
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    hi there, one of my friends (not a member on here)is diabetic (type 1) he plays badminton but thinks because he has to eat constantly when playing it affects his skills. it also effects his weight and has made him gain. what will be a safe way of losing this weight and how can he have a diet that will not affect his ability to play. thanks xxxx
     
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    I drink chocolate milk to replenish my energy. Always works lol! I also saw chocolate milk being mentionned in the newspaper, to be a great drink to replenish energy.
     

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