The sky has finally fallen...

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  1. silentheart

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    Emperor has no clothes?
     
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    his warobe budget went to his wife:D
     
  3. silentheart

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    The problem is not the little people, not the employee of a company. It is with the leader of the country, CEO of the company. Here is something I am experiencing every day. We have a CEO rely on his sr. management team which is just bunch of @$$ kissers. All they do is calling meeting after meeting. Acting busy like they are trying to solve the problem of decreasing revenue and increase cost. A pre-meeting today to discuss when we need to schedule next meeting and what we need to talk about in the next next meeting after we schedule the next meeting. So we have 2 meetings and produce nothing. A "project" manager say, "you should not enter the section #6 before section #4, it is like putting the horse in the back of the cart". WTF, have you ever go shopping in the grocery store? Where do you stand in relation to the cart when you shop? There is a reason why I start #6 before #4. It is because the dumb @$$ project manager like you, who kiss @$$ everyday and never actually work on a project in your life who decide step #4 should be before #6. Smart workers adapt and figure out some time #6 need to be before #4. Those people should be the manager. Not the some @$$ kisser who went to some night school MBA and take some classes and think they should be manager because they have "MBA" (mind of bunch @$$holes).
    Sorry for this post if you have a MBA degree. You know what other meaning of MBA out there too.
     
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    actually, 99.9% americans don't know that it is by law payments are be paid in gold and silver.
    when the gov't sold out to some private scammers called the fed. reserve, people were led to believe the printing press money were real money without backing of gold and silver. The founding fathers never intended that way,

    Constitution for the United States of America
    Article. I.Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

    real money in the wallet is 5,10,20,50 and 100$ gold notes
    here's a real 20$ bill
     

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    There was a mention abt the double dip not too long ago??..

    ..here's something to ponder upon..

    http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...t-recession-really-never-end-yftt_510021.html

    'Double Dip'? Or Did the 'Great Recession' Really Never End?
    Posted Jun 28, 2010 12:54pm EDT by Aaron Task

    Monday's weak consumer spending data is the latest in a string of reports that has many Americans worried about a "double-dip" recession.
    Then again, considering the unemployment rate has remained elevated, many Americans would be forgiven for thinking the recession that began in December 2007 still hasn't ended. Notably, that's the view of the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the nation's official arbiter of economic expansion and contraction.

    Among the signs suggesting the NBER is right to hold off in declaring the recession over:
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    If it is as bad as you chaps say then how about going to China for a job? Only Caucasians qualify. Chinese companies are renting "Whites" for their appearances. It is getting to be big business.
     
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    Yeah? look at the exodus of foreign companies. Soon china will have high inflation due to people making money left and right from the infrastructure boom. Then high unemployment because companies leaving china for cheaper labor. What is next? WWIII? Unless china break the promise to un-peg from dollar and use military to suppress the upcoming unrest from workers, flood victims. Another revolution?

    Whatever...
     
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    Many of you may have heard about the recent labor unrest problems and strikes in China. LOL, the Chinese government in fact welcomes such strikes because these strikes are a better market-driven alternative to having to close down plants that use cheap labor to produce non-hightech products.
    The Chinese government has been closing low tech polluting plants in the Pear River Delta for some yeras now, but comes at some political costs.
    Strikes at Foxconn, Honda, and Toyota plants in China actually help the government to clean up unfair wage practices and exploitation at no cost to the government.
     
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    The UN has called on the world to get rid of the US dollar as a reserve currency. The US dollar has been blamed for all the recent ills of the financial meltdown. This is from the UN, not China, Russia, India, Brazil or any African country.
    By debasing the value of the US dollar the US is in fact manipulating its currency by selling its dollars and at the same time knocking down its value by resorting to the printing press. If the US were not a super power it would be charged with the most heinous crime.
     
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    Have a look at what the UN thinks about the US currency www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=132688&sectionid3510213.
    The US has been screwing all the developing countries and they now have the cheek to accuse many Asian countries of manipulating their currencies.
    The US right now is holding a security think tank meeting to discuss about the threat China poses to the security of the US, both military and economic, should China start dumping US treasuries. They are getting paranoid about something that is not going to happen. The danger is that the US will start a strategy of containment, which is useless in today's global world.
    A much more serious threat on the horizon to the US, militarily, economically, and its standing in the world will come when the world decides to dump the US currency. Then the US economy will implode and it will be faced with bankruptcies a hundred times worse than Greece. Once the US currency loses its currency reserve status, the US will no longer be able to borrow huge amounts of funds. Interest rates will shoot up to prime+5%, companies will collapse from such high interest rates financing, and the US will see a massive emigration from people to companies outwards.
    The only solution is to manage this transition painlessly. Countries holding vast amounts of treasuries, particularly China, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Russia, etc must manage the switch from US treasuries gradually say over 20 years instead of abruptly. This is to give time for the US to reform, spend less and save more because there will no longer be loans. This will also mean the collapse of huge white elephants like its military spending, irresponsible healthcare spending, elimination of grants to other countries, and increase their gas prices to that of Europe.
    Beggars cannot be picky and for this assisted transition the US must be more humble in its relationships with these countries in particular and the world in general. Otherwise, it is kaput.
     
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    This explains why you hate all those people who tell you what to do. Well, you can always consider going it all alone on your own. This is what they mean by putting your money where your mouth is.
     
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    George Bush
    "Miss me yet?"
    "how's that hope and change working out?"
     
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    ..echoing drifit and for master silentheart (and maybe OTB) to enjoy..check out the portion starting @ 1:35..

    [video=youtube;P5yxFtTwDcc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc[/video]
     
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    shocking to see how bad Obama is doing in his own country, while abroad his numbers are excellent.

    nice youtube clip, but it left out the entire economic crises that forces Obama to spend that much. They present the numbers like 2 wars and a crisis are "Obama's fault".
     
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    No, I hate people who tell me what and how to do when they have no idea what they are talking about. Sound like you, perhaps?
     
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    dear master j or is it dr. j??..

    Yes, that's the reality. of course us in the states are feeling the effect because we're the ones directly affected; not the folks abroad, thus the numbers are excellent overseas (how excellent, i don't know). Reality is, the U.S. is in a deep doo-doo. And inflation hasn't even hit. If it doesn't hit, maybe another recession is coming this fall or fall next yr?..
    Maybe we can ship BO to Holland and he can become your prez (fits well with his govt. philosophy as well).;)
    Also consider the mainstream media worldwide, which is mostly liberal (would paint a rosier picture of BO).

    The video clip mentions most of the previous prez and what they've brought to create the current national debt. OTB mentioned it a few times in this thread that the current debt has been accumulating for decades w/previous prez. I don't think the video presents the 2 wars and current crisis as "BO's fault". Sure, some would say it was under W that the national debt increased with all the wars. But now, BO is expanding it even more. It's simply to show what BO's administration is doing in comparison to previous prez and what the projected spending will be under his administration.
    Economic crisis? Yes, the one started by the same people who belong to BO's party. Housing crash/bubble/sub-prime mortgage? Barney Frank, Chris Dodd..yeah, we've mentioned it in the previous "sky is falling" threads..

    Can we say thank goodness there's an ocean next to California. If there's none, the trip will keep on going..Or maybe the trip supposed to end in CA w/the line falling off the cliff into the Pacific Ocean, just like how the U.S. will be down the line??..:eek:
     
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    I don't as a rule tell you what to do. The only exception is the one suggesting that you put the money where your mouth is. Let us see what you are capable of on your own. Look if you hate your boss, why not pluck up enough guts to be your own boss? The louder you rant the more unlikely or incapable you can ever be your own boss. Frankly, I don't think you have what it takes, far from it. So, go on cursing everyone above you.
     
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    ok man. enjoy badminton. life is short. lol. ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25BE42PzZZc&feature=player_embedded

    Ominous reports are leaking past the BP Gulf salvage operation news blackout that the disaster unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico may be about to reach biblical proportions.

    251 million years ago a mammoth undersea methane bubble caused massive explosions, poisoned the atmosphere and destroyed more than 96 percent of all life on Earth. [1] Experts agree that what is known as the Permian extinction event was the greatest mass extinction event in the history of the world.

    55 million years later another methane bubble ruptured causing more mass extinctions during the Late Paleocene Thermal Maximum (LPTM).

    The LPTM lasted 100,000 years. [3]

    Those subterranean seas of methane virtually reshaped the planet when they explosively blew from deep beneath the waters of what is today called the Gulf of Mexico.

    Now, worried scientists are increasingly concerned the same series of catastrophic events that led to worldwide death back then may be happening again-and no known technology can stop it.

    The bottom line: BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling operation may have triggered an irreversible, cascading geological Apocalypse that will culminate with the first mass extinction of life on Earth in many millions of years.

    The oil giant drilled down miles into a geologically unstable region and may have set the stage for the eventual premature release of a methane mega-bubble.

    Ryskin’s methane extinction theory

    Northwestern University’s Gregory Ryskin, a bio-chemical engineer, has a theory: The oceans periodically produce massive eruptions of explosive methane gas. He has documented the scientific evidence that such an event was directly responsible for the mass extinctions that occurred 55 million years ago. [4]

    Many geologists concur: “The consequences of a methane-driven oceanic eruption for marine and terrestrial life are likely to be catastrophic. Figuratively speaking, the erupting region “boils over,” ejecting a large amount of methane and other gases (e.g., CO2, H2S) into the atmosphere, and flooding large areas of land. Whereas pure methane is lighter than air, methane loaded with water droplets is much heavier, and thus spreads over the land, mixing with air in the process (and losing water as rain). The air-methane mixture is explosive at methane concentrations between 5% and 15%; as such mixtures form in different locations near the ground and are ignited by lightning, explosions and conflagrations destroy most of the terrestrial life, and also produce great amounts of smoke and of carbon dioxide…” [5]

    The warning signs of an impending planetary catastrophe—of such great magnitude that the human mind has difficulty grasping it-would be the appearance of large fissures or rifts splitting open the ocean floor, a rise in the elevation of the seabed, and the massive venting of methane and other gases into the surrounding water.

    Such occurrences can lead to the rupture of the methane bubble containment—it can then permit the methane to breach the subterranean depths and undergo an explosive decompression as it catapults into the Gulf waters. [6]

    All three warning signs are documented to be occurring in the Gulf.

    Ground zero: The Gulf Coast

    The people and property located on the greater expanse of the Gulf Coast are sitting at Ground Zero. They will be the first exposed to poisonous, cancer causing chemical gases. They will be the ones that initially experience the full fury of a methane bubble exploding from the ruptured seabed.

    The media has been kept away from the emergency salvage measures being taken to forestall the biggest catastrophe in human history. The federal government has warned them away from the epicenter of operations with the threat of a $40,000 fine for each infraction and the possibility of felony arrests.

    Why is the press being kept away? Word is that the disaster is escalating.

    Cracks and bulges

    Methane is now streaming through the porous, rocky seabed at an accelerated rate and gushing from the borehole of the first relief well. The EPA is on record that Rig #1 is releasing methane, benzene, hydrogen sulfide and other toxic gases. Workers there now wear advanced protection including state-of-the-art, military-issued gas masks.

    Reports, filtering through from oceanologists and salvage workers in the region, state that the upper level strata of the ocean floor is succumbing to greater and greater pressure. That pressure is causing a huge expanse of the seabed-estimated by some as spreading over thousands of square miles surrounding the BP wellhead-to bulge. Some claim the seabed in the region has risen an astounding 30 feet.

    The fractured BP wellhead, site of the former Deepwater Horizon, has become the epicenter of frenetic attempts to quell the monstrous flow of methane.

    The subterranean methane is pressurized at 100,000 pounds psi. According to Matt Simmons, an oil industry expert, the methane pressure at the wellhead has now skyrocketed to a terrifying 40,000 pounds psi.

    Another well-respected expert, Dr. John Kessler of Texas A&M University has calculated that the ruptured well is spewing 60 percent oil and 40 percent methane. The normal methane amount that escapes from a compromised well is about 5 percent.

    More evidence? A huge gash on the ocean floor—like a ragged wound hundreds of feet long—has been reported by the NOAA research ship, Thomas Jefferson. Before the curtain of the government enforced news blackout again descended abruptly, scientists aboard the ship voiced their concerns that the widening rift may go down miles into the earth.

    That gash too is hemorrhaging oil and methane. It’s 10 miles away from the BP epicenter. Other, new fissures, have been spotted as far as 30 miles distant.

    Measurements of the multiple oil plumes now appearing miles from the wellhead indicate that as much as a total of 124,000 barrels of oil are erupting into the Gulf waters daily-that’s about 5,208,000 gallons of oil per day.

    Most disturbing of all: Methane levels in the water are now calculated as being almost one million times higher than normal. [7]

    Mass death on the water

    If the methane bubble—a bubble that could be as big as 20 miles wide—erupts with titanic force from the seabed into the Gulf, every ship, drilling rig and structure within the region of the bubble will immediately sink. All the workers, engineers, Coast Guard personnel and marine biologists participating in the salvage operation will die instantly.

    Next, the ocean bottom will collapse, instantaneously displacing up to a trillion cubic feet of water or more and creating a towering supersonic tsunami annihilating everything along the coast and well inland. Like a thermonuclear blast, a high pressure atmospheric wave could precede the tidal wave flattening everything in its path before the water arrives.

    When the roaring tsunami does arrive it will scrub away all that is left.

    A chemical cocktail of poisons

    Some environmentalist experts are calling what’s pouring into the land, sea and air from the seabed breach ’a chemical cocktail of poisons.’

    Areas of dead zones devoid of oxygen are driving species of fish into foreign waters, killing plankton and other tiny sea life that are the foundation for the entire food chain, and polluting the air with cancer-causing chemicals and poisonous rainfalls.

    A report from one observer in South Carolina documents oily residue left behind after a recent thunderstorm. And before the news blackout fully descended the EPA released data that benzene levels in New Orleans had rocketed to 3,000 parts per billion.

    Benzene is extremely toxic and even short term exposure can cause agonizing death from cancerous lesions years later.

    The people of Louisiana have been exposed for more than two months—and the benzene levels may be much higher now. The EPA measurement was taken in early May. [8]

    Doomsday

    While some say it can’t happen because the bulk of the methane is frozen into crystalline form, others point out that the underground methane sea is gradually melting from the nearby surging oil that’s estimated to be as hot as 500 degrees Fahrenheit.

    Most experts in the know, however, agree that if the world-changing event does occur it will happen suddenly and within the next 6 months.

    So, if events go against Mankind and the bubble bursts in the coming months, Gregory Ryskin may become one of the most famous people in the world. Of course, he won’t have long to enjoy his new found fame because very shortly after the methane eruption civilization will collapse.

    Perhaps if humanity is very, very lucky, some may find a way to avoid the mass extinction that follows and carry on the human race.
     

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