I think that's with strings and grip, so rather similar to my N50IIs. That would place it at the rather heavy 3U end, though....seems like a very alluring racket. I'll have to fight hard to keep my hands off that one!
The N50II is actually the oldest 2nd gen model (with the N90II). And I base my decision what racket to get on the "tech" used - there's very little technology in rackets. The carbon is the most important factor, and all professional grade rackets use great carbon. So, base your decision on how the racket feels, not how new or old it is (as long as it's not a Carbonex 8 )
Then j4kie, I assume that you are leaning more towards the N80? or is that just the vibe I'm getting?
I'm not gonna get one, it's probably waaay too expensive. I have two N50IIs, which I barely use anymore - but they're too chipped to fetch a good price, so I can't bring myself to sell them^^ Anyhow, this looks pretty much like the ideal Li Ning racket for me - not as hammer-like as the N90, and more aerodynamic, but not quite as light as a Bravesword. Tempting.
So pretty much, the tech in the N50II doesn't quite compare to the N80? or that you don't like the N50II's?
I have no idea how the N80 plays, it's just that I find the N50II a bit too heavy and a bit too soft for my liking. I could get used to it again, but feel that I'm better with slightly quicker rackets, and just as or nearly as powerful. When I want a hammer, I use the N90
Just managed to pickup a N80 and N36 while visiting Beijing... N80 actually feels pretty fast and not heavy, mind u that is unstrung, the N36 feels heavier... Won't be able to play with them as my vacation continues on in Japan both rackets does look very nice compared to the previous LN's... Price wise both wind up being around 1000RMB, N80 is a bit more but not that much more... Managed to pickup the new flouscent orange LN shirt as well lol...
Wow you do really enjoy your time in Beijing..Looking forward to hear from you buying several JP rackets Have fun, mate..
Wait, i thought the N50II was suppose to be super stiff? so would you rate it as soft as say, an Arc 10? (bit stupid perhaps because Arc10 is suppose to be pretty stiff itself...) What do you think is the closest comparison to the stiffness of the N50II?
That's hard. I haven't played with any racket quite like it, as it's kinda heavy and head heavy. It's medium stiff, so it feels a bit like a heavier version of an Arc7 (it's stiffer than that, but also head heavier, and thus feels similar )
I strung my N80 and N36 with LN NS95 at 26lbs... I mostly played with my N80 the last two weeks, but than it's only two times a week so keep that in mind... And only with partners I know and trust to ensure the safety of my new toys The N80 is a head heavy racket and is very stable, the shot goes where you want it to go, it doesn't feel sluggish but after playing I do find my elbow, shoulder to be a little bit sore, but it goes away the next day... Power is definitly there but I don't remember how the N90 is after I sold it so I can't really compare the two in terms of power but the N80 is faster for sure... I find this racket easier to use than let's say a VT80 as I find the VT80 sluggish and the power between them is compareable...
You should try it out if you've got a chance, the N36 isn't too bad either, quite user friendly... I must say this new generation of LN's finish is superior to the old ones, even the Nxx-II's... and the racket bag is different as well... Also they had a special scratch and win thing going on and I got a towel and a keychain... I'll upload the pics if I've got a chance(too lazy )