elite back up/back up player 2010

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  1. pBmMalaysia

    pBmMalaysia Regular Member

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    24 yrs old for singles? hmmm..

    if that's true maybe its too competitive nowadays

    and i really feel sorry for them :D

    but then looking at what i know,

    going high performance, its best at 22 onwards :D
     
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  2. jimbo

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    They are still very young... not yet 30yrs old... still can run up n down, left n right, jump here jump there inside the court... but that's pretty much everything they can do... isn't it? still BOLEH?
     
  3. pBmMalaysia

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    yes, this i still agree with you..boleh!

    age when high performance is reached for badminton is 20-25 years (tudor o. bompa - theory and mythology of training) :D
     
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    http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2010/12/27/sports/7688927&sec=sports

    Shuttlers aim to make amends for Asiad flop

    PETALING JAYA: Singles shuttler Liew Daren and the men’s pair of Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong will be out to make amends for their uninspiring outing in the Guangzhou Asian Games when they compete in the Copenhagen Masters starting today.

    Daren is in a tough Group A with top Dane Peter-Gade Christensen and Dutchman Dicky Palyama. He plays against Christensen today and takes on Palyama the next day.

    Dane Jan Jorgensen is not defending the title and the home hope will be on Christensen to lived up to his billing as the highest ranked player by landing a record 10th Copenhagen Masters title.

    At the Guangzhou Asiad last month, Daren was a letdown in the third singles match of a quarter-final tie against Thailand.

    Malaysia had to depend on the back-up shuttlers to turn the tables on Thailand after Lee Chong Wei crashed to an unexpected defeat by Boonsak Ponsana in the first singles match.

    However, Hee Chun-Wee Kiong and Daren were a bundle of nerves and failed to deliver the points. Daren, who played the decisive fifth match of the tie was beaten in straight games by a younger Thai opponent, S. Avihingsanon.

    “The defeat was a bitter experience for me. I could have emerged as the hero but I failed to take the chances. I will try my best to win one match (in Copenhagen),
    ” said Daren, who enjoyed a fairy tale run in the Malaysia Open last year.

    He battled his way through the qualifying rounds to reach the quarter-finals before losing to Christensen. Daren conceded that the chances of beating the Dane on his home ground is slim.

    Joining Daren and Hee Chun-Wee Kiong in the annual invitational event is veteran Wong Choong Hann, who has a better chance of making the final from a Group B comprising Boonsak and Dane Hans Kristian Vittinghus.

    Only four pairs are competing in the men’s doubles and Hee Chun-Wee Kiong, a second-round casualty in the individyal competition of the Guangzhou Asiad, have a difficult task to beat the world No. 1 Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen of Denmark to qualify for the final.
     
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    Haha, MHC/TWK up against World No.1. They have lost to this pair 2 times before, let's hope they can defeat another world no.1... but really, they must control their nerves lah. Liew Daren, I think if he wants to win one match, he must hope that he can beat Dicky again. Peter Gade is too strong for him.
     
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    Courtesy of The Star :

    Tuesday December 28, 2010

    Communication breakdown puts back-up pairs out of home Open

    By LIM TEIK HUAT

    KUALA LUMPUR: A lack of proper communication has resulted in all four national back-up men’s pairs under the charge of Tan Kim Her not getting the chance to feature in the Malaysian Open next month.
    The entries for Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong, Chan Peng Soon-Lim Khim Wah, Goh Wei Shem-Teo Kok Siang and Ow Yao Han-Chooi Kah Ming were not submitted for the men’s doubles competition of the home Open scheduled for Jan 18-23 at the Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil.
    Hee Chun-Wee Kiong, Peng Soon-Khim Wah and Wei Shem-Kok Siang would have been eligible to play in the main draw of the season-opening Super Series tournament even if the event attracted the world’s top ranked pairs as all of them are ranked inside the top 30.
    Instead, they will be resigned to playing only the mixed doubles.
    The Badminton Association of Malaysia’s (BAM) entries for the men’s doubles are world No. 2 Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Ong Soon Hock, Hoon Thien How-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif, Vountus Indra Mawan-Mohd Lufti Zaim Abdul Khalid and Nelson Heg Wei Kiat-Teo Ee Yi.
    Two independent Malaysian pairs – Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen and Chan Chong Ming-Lee Wan Wah – are also in the fray.
    World No. 1 Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen of Denmark, South Korea’s Lee Yong-dae-Jung Jae-sung and China’s Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun are not among the entries and it would have been a good chance for the back-up pairs to stamp their mark in their own backyard.
    The BAM general manager, Kenny Goh, said yesterday: “I find it strange that the mixed doubles entries were submitted but not the men’s doubles.
    “It only came to our attention after the deadline for entries. The coach admitted that he made a mistake in not submitting their names.”
    To be fair to Kim Her, who is now taking a break from coaching, he was with the players at the Hong Kong Open when entries closed on Dec 14.
    The incident has only highlighted the need for a better communication set-up between the coaching department and administrative side of the BAM now that different coaches are in charge of different groups.
     
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    Oh dear. Just because TKH was in the Hong Kong Open BAM doesn't know how to submit the names of no doubt the 3 pairs who are carrying our hopes of the future. One word : Inefficient.
     
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    In BAM, they are all Generals and no soldiers. Hence, the screw up. Still Boleh..? Courtesy from Jimbo.
     
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    lol
    so they dont know badminton at all
    know money only
     
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    Kenichi Tago reached AE Final at the age of 20, beating top players along the way, not to mention giving our LCW a scare in the Final. Not many 20 year olds can do it, except for TH..But, that is not a reason for BAM to compromise too much as to when the elite back up players getting a breakthrough, probably if they reached 23 with no promising results (e.g. TCS), they should start grooming the next batch of 17-18 year olds
     
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    no, bam must not see the last of the elite back up underperform before gromming the younger batch.

    they should groom all at the same time after all there are smaller tournaments everywhere.

    and this goes down further to the grass root level as well.:)

    when we built our house we also need to build a toilet, hope you know what i mean:D
     
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    They should send Liew Daren to international challenge. His ability should let him get a decent result there, like final. Like what INA did to Tommy Sugiarto.
     
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    Agree. There's no reason to send him to SS or other big events... he should start winning those satellite and GP tournaments... LD still BOLEH?
     
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    BAM will end up sending only LCW to SS tournaments, the rest of MS end up GP Gold & Satellite. Drastic measure no doubt, but it one way of propping up their (back up) rankings
     
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    Agree but there should be different targets for everybody ( coaches not spared) and budget allows that. One coaches should not handle too many of the elite shuttlers, house-cleaning is needed.:)
     
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    Tommy become independent player already..so he can choose what tournament he want to attend..
     
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    Looks like Tommy made the right decision. :)
    The elite-backup rankings are so poor, and they get slaughtered in 1st round/qualifying of SS, not good way to earn points. They should be sent to more international challenges first.
     
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    Liew Daren is injury-prone.

    Actually, I was quite surprised (and impressed) by his racquet skills. But maybe lack of hard work, commitment... because if he put in a lot of effort he will DEFINITELY, go far. He has very good shots and skills of his own but sometimes he just goes into 'error mode' and makes error after error after error. If he can start putting in effort now, it's still not too late for Liew Daren.
     
  19. pBmMalaysia

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    certainly, let the new bam secretay do his job :)

    and hopefully the house is clean :D

    if not, we also continue our discussion lol :D
     
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    When a player commits a series of unforced errors, more often than not the problem lies with his physical and mental fitness. The more common would be the former. This showed how under trained and unstable game our back-up shuttlers has.

    Skill wise they are fine, but they need the endurance to execute whatever skills they have in the first place.
     
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