Badminton Nutrition

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  1. taneepak

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    Chocolate is a mix of many ingredients with the base ingredient cocoa. It is unlikely you are getting any energy from cocoa. Quick energy comes from very high GI carbs and no. 1 on the list is plain glucose with a little water or glucose cubes, next sugar cubes. However, cocoa is a super food for your cardiovascular system.
     
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    "Slow-energy releasing" foods versus "Fast-energy releasing" foods

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    Perhaps Nutrioutlet could list for us the "slow-energy releasing" foods, and the "fast-energy releasing" foods. :):):)

    What should we eat on the day before our tournament, and what should we eat on tournament day? :confused::confused::confused:
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    The only healthy source of energy comes from carbohydrates, which converts to glucose, the raw material of energy. Carbs in their natural state are generally energy slow-releasing and processed carbs are more likely to be fast-releasing. The fastest is glucose, followed by sugar, syrup, honey, sweets, white bread and white rice. Grains that are wholegrain like wholegrain rice, wholemeal flour, pot barley, oats flakes, whole buckwheat, rye, spaghetti from wholewheat durum are all super slow-release carbs. Also cooking carbs too long like porridge rice is more fast-releasing than ordinary way of cooking.
    If all glucose from carbs are used up the body gets it from fat and protein conversion, which is not a healthy way.
    Your source of energy in sports must be from carbs and carbs only. If you are into intense competition do it like Peter Gade-Carbs loading. Carbs loading simply means storing more energy-giving carbs in your body with a simple diet routine that you could normally store in an ordinary diet.
     
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    Yeah, Slow energy releasing food can either be
    1) Low GI Carbs
    2) Non Carb energy source such as Protein and Fat.
    I do think getting energy from Protein & Fat alone can be quite extreme. Not very sure what kinda shock it will do to your system.
    Real sugar blood levels dropping can be quite dangerous i heard from some friends who tried and ultimately failed on the Atkins.

    Cocoa is a popular source for Dopamine. It's a kind of natural hormone that gets ppl feeling perky. Some ppl call it a drug LOL.
    So even if you don't quite get the energy per se from Cocoa itself... the perkiness effect it gives might be the 'lift' u need for sports prep.

    Chocalate milk is also normaly 'sweetened' with sugar. That would explain the 'energy' aspect of the drink.

    The Durian is also another 'strong' source for Dopamine. No wonder ppl get addicted to it!
     
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    First, can you ask to see a different doctor? Can you ask about who has a specialism in sports injury? I saw several doctors at my local practice, and one of them referred me to a colleague who was a sports specialist.

    Second, can you see a physiotherapist?

    It's easy to get into the "well, I tried" mindset. I've been there myself; part of my motivation for saying, "well, I tried" was that I didn't want to confront the issue. ;) If you give up after a few tries, maybe you're not committed enough to taking care of your body.

    I agree it's frustrating. These things should be easily available. All doctors should have a better understanding of sports injuries, at least to the extent that they know when to refer you to someone more knowledgeable.

    But when it's not easy, you have to compensate by putting in the effort (and money, often). My free (national health service) physiotherapy was insufficient, so I went private as well. That's cost me £115 ($230) so far, for three sessions; for me, that's quite a lot of money. But it's worth it.
     
  6. nutrioutlet

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    Hello Maltezerzz

    Exercise can have a significant effect of the control of your friends diabetes. Just to give you a few examples there are; lowering excess blood sugar levels, strengthening the muscles and heart, improving circulation and reducing stress - all of which I am sure your friend knows about. :) Playing badminton may also help reduce his excess weight. :)

    I would suggest however due to him having type I diabetes that he talk with his GP/physician about how much exercise he can do at any one given time, as this will change on how severe his diabetes is.

    As a personal trainer, there are guidelines we have to follow when training someone with diabetes, he may find those guidelines beneficial to follow whilst playing badminton with you.

    1, Suggest he sees his GP for a full medical examination before your next game together.

    2, Encorage him to monitor his blood sugar levels before, during and after your game. (This allows to see the effects his game has on his blood sugar levels) The ISSA (International Sports Science Association) state that clinical data suggests that it is safe to exercise if a diabetics blood sugar level is between 100 and 250 mg/dl - THIS MUST BE DISCUSSED WITH HIS DOCTOR!!

    3, Advise that he wears a heart rate monitor and keeps his heart rate between 55-85% of his maximum*

    4, It is suggested that diabetics with type I diabetes, exercise only for 20 -30 minutes per session.

    5, Exercise daily, (this doesn't mean a badminton game a day!!) regular consistant exercise patterns can help diabetics to more effectively balance their training with their diets and medications - thus being able to maintain blood sugar control.

    6, Play your game of badminton within one to two hours after a meal or snack (but no longer than 3 hours after a meal) whilst blood sugar levels are relatively high.

    7, Tell him to avoid playing badminton during periods of peak insulin activity or take special precautions. (e.g. 1, consume a light meal or carbohydrate snack, and 2, alter the insulin injection site to an area not primarily involved in the exercise - i.e the abdomen - to prevent exercise induced hypoglycemia)

    8, Tell your friend to always carry a form of fast acting carbohydrate eg: juice, soft drinks, candy, glucose tablets ect... in case of hypoglycemic emergency

    9, Be aware of the signs and symptoms and treatment of hypoglycemia, so that you can help your friend if you see any symptoms start to occur.

    10, Avoid playing in extreme heat, due to his increased susceptibilty to anhidrosis (failure of the sweating mechanism)

    * Maximum heart rate is found by deducting your age from 220. Example for a 40 year old man =
    220 - 40 = 180.
    55% of 180 = 99 beats per minute
    85% of 180 = 153 beats per minute
     
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    how to reduce sweating? i sweat a lot and it make my grip wet...then its slippery and hard to play with...
     
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    Sweating is a great sign that your body is working properly. So trying to reduce sweating through nutrition or training is not something that I would ever advise.

    What I do for fantastic grip is use climbers chalk and also a liquid chalk. This keeps your hands dry and also helps keep your grip. I would suggest you try the liquid chalk as it is a lot less messy.

    Hope that this helps?

    Nutrioutlet
     
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    For your wet grip problem, try not to hold your grip too tight because if you don't, humidity builds up since your palms are hot and the skin on your palm can't breath.
     
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    A good way to help with excessive sweating is to use towel wristband on your rackethand (and replace if getting wet). also grip powder or towel grip is useful!!

    /Twobeer
     
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    Getting referral to specialist in sports injury

    This is to Omar_Zangetsu and anyone else following the mini-thread of seeking medical advice.

    I think it's advisable to at least see a knowledgeable doctor to assess whether your injury is well on its way to recovery, since you're very young, but also to see if you require additional treatment to support the healing. For example, it's very common to start developing scar tissue from your soft-tissue injuries. Scar tissue, as it builds up over time, will increasingly limit your joint mobility, which will lead to poorer performance. I'm not a health professional; this is just from what I've read, been told, and personal experience.

    Getting a referral to a sports injury specialist should not be too difficult. Insist that your family doctor give you a referral, or failing that, from personal experience, I know that going to the Downtown Doctors walk-in clinic at Bloor and Spadina in Toronto, will probably get you a referral to the University of Toronto's David McIntosh Sports Rehab clinic. I've experienced very good care there.

    Good luck.
     
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    Depends on what you are eating I would say.

    For me, for breakfast or lunch, I would say 3 hours before. Anything less and I can feel my food in my stomach churning if I don't give it a good 2-3 hours to digest before games. Usually a good load of clean carbohydrates and protein does it for me (pasta or sushi peanut butter sandwich). No Indian mee goreng before games, please! If it were just a banana, power bar or something similar, on the spot is fine.

    During games, isotonic drink + water + glucose does it for me. I always try to sip only a few mouths and resist the urge to slam down the whole can or bottle - but I usually fail and end up drinking 1 full can in about 5 seconds :(

    Justin.
     
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    Eating time before badminton

    That utterly depends on how long and in what shape you want to be in. Firstly, eating proprerly the day before helps alot because your body will have long since digested, absorbed and stored the ingested nutrients.

    As for eating on the day you plan to play, it depends on what you eat. If your meal contains meat, 3 hours is the recommended eating-before-playing-time.

    Finally, if you are in a pinch, foods with lots of sugar are recommended (complex sugars preferably, because simple sugars are used too easily and quickly). I personnally suggest eating sweet cereals like "froot loops" or "lucky charms" (no milk or you will get a "stomach cramp").

    P.S: It would be my pleasure to answer any other question regarding nutrition.
     
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    Magnesium: It's good for preventing cramps

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    "It was a three-set match and I drank 1.5 litres of water before the match and another 2.5 litres during the match, but still got cramps in both legs," Badminton legend Poul-Erik Hoyer Larsen (DEN) said. "I only learned later that it was not enough to drink just water, without the essential supplements such as magnesium."

    Source: http://health.asiaone.com/Health/Eat+Right/Story/A1Story20100822-233301.html
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    Is Nutrioutlet still active on the forum?
    Calling Nutrioutlet...
    Come in, Nutrioutlet.... :)
     
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    Hey, if Nutrioutlet is still active answer this please

    So yeah i play around 3 hours on saturdays, 7 PM - 10 PM, just wondering is this okay, i usually eat a 6 inch - foot long sub at subways before i eat, roast chicken breast =D, and just wondering is that enough or too much?
     
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    Personnally, that wouldn't be enough for me. I need at least twice as much.

    But for you, it depends on your metabolism. If your body usually consumes a lot of energy/calories, you should eat more. Otherwise, you'll tire yourself quickly and it may become unhealthy if you continue playing on low energy reserves.

    Also, the amount you should eat depends on the time you have to digest. It should be noted that, during exercise, you digestive system will slow down or even stop working. Therefore, having spare time to digest is highly recommended. I suggest you at least finish eating an hour before beginning exercises (half an hour at the limit).

    Be cautious of meat, it takes time to digest, so don't eat to much of it right before playing.

    also on the time to have to digest before playing.
     
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    It looks like nutrioutlet is too busy......

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    It looks like nutrioutlet is too busy lately. :):):)
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    optic flare

    I get hungry a lot of times. But I try to avoid eating that much before a game. However, during an intense game, when I get tired, I see colors everywhere. It's like there are flashes of light of different coloros flying around. It's really hard to explain how it looks like, but it's sort of like what happens when a flashlight is directed towards your eyes and then after a while, the light is still illuminating even if the flashlight has been turned off. In Starcraft, it's called optic flare, one of the special abilities of the medics.

    I attribute this to lack of food. What I do is I stop for a while and then eat chocolate or anything sweet. Do you guys experience this?
     

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