Misbun Sidek, a great player?

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  1. abedeng

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    That is true. It was a time where badminton was at the crossroads, with players like Prakash Padukone, Morten Frost and Misbun Sidek showing how delicate skills could still matter. Padukone, the most graceful of them, beat Liem Swie King 2 and 10 in the final of 1980 All-England, even gave Han Jian a duck in the World Cup final of 1981.:eek:

    But inevitably, power players like Swie King, Han Jian, Luan Jin, Icuk and Yang Yang started to revolutionize how the game is played ....... and it continues today.
     
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    Actually Yang Yang started to revolutionize the game beside Lim Swie King...then came ZJH...
     
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    I have my heads up whenever the word misbun was uttered.
    I was not there in his heydays.i think in 1980s.But the journey of his life..how he turn up to be misbun sidek.I know that from anak-anak sidek the anime.


    Uncle misbun.U have our salute.
     
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    Brother,We can just tell that he was absolutely WRONG.

    Pemuda,change the word 'great player' to 'greatest player.'
    Misbun maybe wasnt the best among the best but he is a great player.
    How should we denied that?
     
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    Even Yang Yang took a lot of time to make his mark. It took him, what, 3-4 years before he could beat Morten Frost? :p But once he started, Frost could never beat him again.

    Han Jian might not be as full fledged attacking minded as Swie King and Yang Yang, but he was still an attacking player. I find him to be more well rounded and complete than either Yang Yang or Zhao Jianhua. That 3 game battle between Swie King and Han Jian in 1982 Thomas Cup Final was pivotal, and CHN turned the tables ........
     
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    He was a great player except for the weird things that he did..like having his hair styled in the mohawk fashion and bleaching the middle part his hair. Caused quite a stir..felt he had to express himself?
     
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    ^^Sounds..^^

    ..similar to another popular MAS' modern day player..;)
     
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    Yes, well I suppose it is. :D

    BAM in the late-70s to early-80s did not have a very credible coaching setup. Thus early in his career, Misbun pretty much did his own analysis of games and planned his own training. Even pulled himself out of BAM training to prepare on his own for the World Cup in 1982, and managed a runnerup finish behind Liem Swie King.

    I suppose Misbun does have inherent coaching pedigree, just like Taufik Hidayat has inherent badminton talent.

    By the time Dr Elyas Omar, the BAM President, changed the training set up and roped in foreign coaches in the late-80s, it was a bit too late to benefit Misbun.
     
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    Maybe, just maybe, thanks to these awesome inventions named newspaper and match videos. ;)

    Yea, I second this.
    My great-great-great grandparents weren't even born in 17th century. So, why should I waste my time learning Isaac Newton's 3 Laws of Motion?

    Based on that theory, because I didn't meet him in person and didn't see him doing all the calculations, debates with other scientists, and that 'apple incident,' then I could question his great contribution to the humanity?:confused:

    I would even possibly come into a conclusion that, "Isaac Newton was an idiot.":p
     
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    Your quotes are all jumbled up.
    That first quote is from pjswift.
    It is not from eaglehelang ;)
     
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    Whoops, you're right. Thanks for reminding. There. Already edited.
    All, you said? Any other mistake?:confused:

    Sorry Sire, I think someone has this, "Only by seeing live then you have the right to give opinion" theory.
     
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    Some basic common sense please

    Dear pjswift,

    True, true I have never had the chance to see Misbun Sidek as a player. In the same vein, I have also never seen Pele, George Best, Franz Beckenbauer in action but are they legends in football. I will say yes without a doubt. Just in case you dont know or unaware, there is such a thing called research. To help you a little, there are history books. But if reading is not something for you, try this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misbun_Sidek

    After looking at Misbun's achievements, to consider him as a great player is stretching things a little.

    Based on your little theory, if anyone asked you whether Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr were great men are you gonna say you dont know because you have never seen them in action or were still in your little pram especially for Martin Luther King Jr's case?? ;)

    You dont even need a math or curiosity test for this, just an application of elementary logic will suffice.
     
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    Thank you thank you. It is good to have a court jester to announce my arrival. ;)
     
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    Bro, dont go so far back to Thomas Edison, pjswift dont know who that Edison chap is. Stick to something current preferably from the early 60s to present day. I am sure she know who is Jack Neo of 'Money No Enough' is though.
     
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    Misbun Sidek a great player??

    Ok, lets look at a few shuttlers in Misbun's era i.e Han Jian, Yang Yang & Morten Frost. These guys have won the WC, AE etc then while Misbun did not. If we say Misbun is a great player then these guys are super super great players??

    Lets not abuse that word great.
     
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    if lcw win the 2009 MAS open, he would tie misbun's record of 6 MAS open titles.
     
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    In 2009, LCW will be going for his 8th MAS MS National title in a row

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    Incorrect... In 2008, LCW already surpassed Misbun Sidek's record of 6 MAS MS National titles in a row.

    In 2009, LCW will be going for his 8th MAS MS National title in a row.
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    Excuse me, this thread is about Misbun Sidek
     

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