Hmmm... I always thought that the woven frame gave the excellent feel to the mx80. So I guess the slightly less extra stiff shaft attenuates the feel in the mx70 despite having the same woven frame... Nevertheless, looks like I'll be waiting for the mx70 instead of trying out a 4u mx80.
I think the 70 will be an awesome all-rounder with those specs. A BS11 style racket with more weight in the head that's almost as fast but packs more punch? Sign me up!
I think I'll call it The Frankensword! You should see it. It looks like a dog chewed on it, and then some kid came along a put little Victor stickers all over it. A face only a mother could love.
maybe the less stiff shaft could not handle the more head heavy frame ... who knows ? yeah you can say that it's almost like a BS11 to a BS10 when comparing MX70 to MX80 it's kinda weird when I try to compare MX80 (BP 292 mm) and SPR22 (BP 291 mm) MX80 HH o0ooo HL and SPR22 HH oo0oo HL on the cone but in reality when I swing them both and actually play with them MX80 feels a lot head heavier and SPR22 feels very much even balanced despite of BP differences only by 1 mm maybe this will be the case with MX80 BP 292 mm and MX70 BP around 295 mm but MX70 feels a lot more head heavy than MX80 despite of the difference only a few mm I don't think it's that hollow Head Metallix is 5U right ?
Is that playing bp or naked bp for both? Because having different grips and different colored grips can have a significant effect on changing the bp, depending on the differing masses of the the grips.
that's playing BP for both of them strung with the same string and wrap with the same overgrip both are 3U G2 so it will be fair enough for them both
Hmmm... In that case, perhaps the mx70 weighs 1-2 g heavier than the mx80, despite both being 3U. I just can't imagine why 3 mm bp difference would feel so much more head heavier ...
beats me too but then how could you explain MX80 feels a lot head heavier than SPR22 ??? MX80 total weight 93.8 grams BP 292 mm SPR22 total weight 94.5 grams BP 291 mm
Because it depends on where the weight is distributed. Get 2 10g sticks and 2 pieces of clay, both weighing 50g. On one sick, place the entire ball at the end. On the other, distribute it all over the stick except for where you hand is. Both weigh 60g but both feel completely different.
I agree about the distribution of mass, ie frame, t joint or shaft. But your example doesn't work, because the bp is obviously very different.
His physics failed. That's why. You should put some weight at the T joint and on another racket put a lower weight at the end of the racket. Adjust the weight so that the balance point is the same. I'm sure the racket will swing very differently.
Where in my post did I say the BP would be the same? The question was "Why does it feel head heavier?". It feels head heavier because of the weight distribution, so why complicate the illustration? Comprehension fail.
Speaking of which... If you had read jumpsmash's post before yours above, you'll understand we're discussing about 2 rackets with almost the same wt and bp that swing differently.
I'm sorry if my over-simplified example wasn't detailled enough for you. Maybe you can add some lengthy equations here so you feel better?
Still, I got your point though Mike. Either way, it doesn't matter what total weight is. As mentioned before, what matters is distribution of weight. Thin shaft + thicker head frame = higher BP whilst thick shaft + thinner head frame = more balanced BP. Anyway, I've sort of become addicted to head heaviness now. Maybe I just like punishing myself, but I really want Victor to release an ultra head heavy MX80 now. Otherwise no lie, I'll design and produce my own. I already have some very cool ideas to implement and the most bad ass racket paintwork design (by me) that you'll have seen on a racket yet!
Maybe I'm taking your comment out of context, but total weight does matter quite a bit, particularly when you start going too heavy or too light. I have a 6U racket which is head heavy and I find it hard to generate a lot of power with it. Probably mostly "bad" technique on my part, but still...
