Mind your language and be civil, I can tell you also to keep your comments to yourself. Pls refrain from being personal in your engagements as i think your mentality qualifies you for an ignore candidate. Many of us here are educated and civilised people and possess integrity and understand the context of what is discussed. Pls keep your opinions to yourself unless you have anything intelligent to say. When you dont agree with someone else just express your own views instead of launching an attack.
Why do you think LYB have to arrange for TXH to guide LD in the quest for Olympic gold? Don't CHN have enough good coaches to help LD deliver? Better still, why don't you suggest that LD plays in tournaments without coaches? It's obvious that the reason BAM has to rethink MS 's resignation is because of LCW. He walks out, Yonex walks out, you think Proton will want to or have the money to support the rest of BAM with no results? By the way, LCW does not pocket money, everything he earns is the reward for the cumulative efforts and sacrifices he (and MS ) puts in. You gotta ask why other MAS MS can't do it yet.Maybe if they can match LCW's discipline and diligence, they may. It's tough to live up to it. If it were so easy, any player can be WR1 for even a week.
Thank you for your unsolicited advice but having read your posts i have no wish to engage in any dialogue with you. If you continue your ways I will simply add you to ignore.
Pardon me for being less educated, civilised and lacking in comprehension. But I can assure you I am not lacking in integrity. Your post borders on sarcasm and ridicule. Maybe you got carried away.Maybe you were sincere. I'm just giving you feedback I perceive it otherwise before you get carried away even more. But i must say most of your posts are excellent. So my apologies for the unintended offense.
Thank you, that post was in response to people who suggested that certain people ought to have preferential treatment for their achievements. Some people may prefer to reward performers and give them VIP treatment,some may not. If you work for companies like Japanese manufacturers or Hewlett Packard, they dont distinguish and encourage class differences, managers and staff wear the same overalls , eat the same food in the canteen, sit in the same open office with no rooms for officers or managers. This is to encourage cammarderie and team spirit. Possible it is also the Communist/Socialist way but it works as there is little distinction between staff and everyone has a common mission.To treat colleagues differently would be unthinkable, the only difference is performance bonuses. Looks like such practice is unacceptable with societies in this region as we are pre-occupied with class, status and all that. From experience giving preferential treatment to achievers come with other problems. It does depend on culture and the type of activities being managed.
Pls read staronline today on GM Kenny Goh's explanation. It would be the view of any professional person. Of course common sense would say that badminton outfits are best run by badminton players but it depends on the size and mission of the outfit, easier to manage for a small club for eg.. At the moment there aren't enough smart baddy players with management expertise to manage, even anyone with some sports exposure must be good enough.The problem here is MS's conflict with BAM, not LCW or others, must BAM accomodate his requests ? IF MS runs his own club he might turn out to be successful but point is should he run BAM? I'm not saying BAM is right , as Kenny and James said they are revamping and just starting and should be given a chance. In 2003 few gave MS a chance when he was picked coach given his rebellious nature but he did prove himself to a large extent. Dont you think he should also give the new BAM a chance?
Haha my response will sound like I endorse slavery or something from the pages of 'spartacus: blood and sand'... TCS has not earned his 'freedom' (i.e. repay back his current investors in kind) and neither could he afford to buy his own freedom (i.e. get other investors to pay the old investor) Simple business logic which still applies till today. If not... you have to change the entire Malaysian Badminton 'Industry' muahaha
Fact is there are also political reasons. MS can leave but the politicians wont allow LCW to stay if that is the case. If it was some other coach the issue would not be blown so big. I will not divulge details as it has been done by someone else. That is not to say MS is not a good coach to a certain extent, I think a great coach should also be great learner. Just to cite an eg. as a student would you like to learn from a sifu who teaches you the same stuff he learned 20-30 years ago? Even the reason for LCW's stand is public, he has difficulty adjusting to a new coach, and does not want this problem to hamper his quest for 2012, is that a very selfless act or is he a team player in that respect?
www.thestar.com.my Wednesday January 12, 2011 Coaches, players should be open to changes, says BAM GM KUALA LUMPUR: The new training and coaching structure is to strengthen Malaysia’s badminton programme for a better future. And it is hoped that by putting the system in order, the BAM will be able to create a bigger pool of players. The BAM general manager, Kenny Goh (pic), said yesterday that coaches and players should be open to changes for the betterment of the sport. “We admit that we are short of talent now. We do not have enough players to win honours in high-level tournaments. But this is the result of our past system and we should not harp on it,” he said. “We have already made changes and time must be given for this new system to take root. The BAM coaching and training committee have taken affirmative steps to create a bigger pool of players. “Our new chairman, Ng Chin Chai, has put certain things in place. One is the appointment of a high performance director to streamline the programme. “The performances of players and coaches are also more measurable now. We will make constant review to ensure its effectiveness.” Currently, national training is divided into three sectors. There are coaches for the elite, elite back-up and junior squads. And goals and targets are set for each squad. Players in the BAM camp also enjoy better remuneration packages following a recent review in incentives and allowances.
Hilarious Kenny G: It’s the result of our past system Reader: OIC. So we are doing things differently now? Kenny G: We now have 3 squads: Elite, Elite Back Up, and Juniors Reader: OIC. What was it like last time? Kenny G: We had Senior squad, and Back up Squad. Back Up squad we also call juniors. And we have extra junior squad also, those fresh out of the sports school. Reader: So u had about 3 squads last time and 3 squads now. Sounds just the same Kenny G: Eh c’mon. We changed the name already. So it’s different lah. Reader: Why do we separate them by squads? Do the back up only play in back up tournaments? And vice versa? Kenny G: No. They are sent to what ever they can qualify for. Most of the elite play in the same with the rest too. Reader: This is just a whole load of hogwash isn’t it Kenny? Kenny G: I can not tell a lie…… Reader: yes?.... Kenny G:……. The result of a redundent system borrowed from I don't know what so-called success model.... if any. End of the day... Tournament Player or Training Player. Star player, Up & Coming or Sparring Partner.
As posted in the other thread, BAM President say they reject Misbun's resignation. Tommorrow newspapers another round of hu ha
It is good for misbun to spit out all his plans so that everyone knows what their duties are. Later, he'll get blamed again for failure. Vultures are ready to pounce.
Please reconsider resignation: BAM 2011/01/12 BAM Exco meeting at Juara Stadium today. Photo by Bernama. PETALING JAYA: The Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) wants national singles coach Datuk Misbun Sidek to reconsider his resignation for the interest of the nation, particularly the Road to London 2012 Olympic Programme. BAM President Datuk Seri Nadzmi Salleh said he would explain to Misbun the reason behind the changes made in the new training structure implemented by BAM and hoped the later would change his perception towards it. "The changes (in training structure) was decided by the BAM council after the Thomas Cup post-mortem last year. It was aimed for the long term development of badminton to enable us to produce more players like Datuk Lee Chong Wei. "Any issue that he (Misbun) was not happy with that led to his resignation, BAM is prepared to sit down and discuss," he told reporters after a BAM exco meeting at Stadium Juara, Bukit Kiara here today. Misbun tendered his resignation on Dec 31, last year, which happened to be the expiry date of his contract with BAM. Misbun was reported to be unhappy with the major changes implemented by BAM in its new training structure. Nadzmi said the Road to London programme was very important and the nation had placed high hopes on Chong Wei to win the nation's first gold medal in the Olympics. "Chong Wei needs Misbun and I've read in the media that Chong Wei will follow Misbun's footsteps. I urge both to reconsider their actions for the sake of the nation," he said. Asked if BAM would fulfill any demands made by Misbun as a condition for him to continue, Nadzmi said such matters would be considered after receiving feedback from Misbun. Nadzmi added that the coaching restructure in coaching had been agreed upon by a majority of BAM coaches. "This is the decision of the majority. To me whether Misbun accepts it or not, is not the issue here. What is important is to think of the country," he said. -- BERNAMA Read more: Please reconsider resignation: BAM http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/BAMwantsMisbuntoreconsiderresignation/Article/#ixzz1ApYg8eDt
It's for BAM only that Misbun Sidek should stay . I am thinking the same too. BAM members and Malaysian politicians continue to remind everyone that it's for the interest of the nation that Misbun Sidek should reconsider his resignation. IMHO, it's only for BAM's sake that Misbun Sidek should stay, because some think that BAM is the only body who can do the job for Malaysia. However I say, if Misbun Sidek goes independent, it would provide more options where Malaysian players can be coached/trained. It cannot be said that only a government institution/association can promote Badminton. Therefore, it's time for Misbun Sidek to work for Malaysian Badminton without BAM. It's not only for BAM, I think it's time for Badminton to flourish worldwide without depending on National Associations in every country. Hope that BWF is reading this. .
***IMHO, it's only for BAM's sake that Misbun Sidek should stay, because some think that BAM is the only body who can do the job for Malaysia.*** Couldn't agree more... its all for BAM! Msia badminton can live without BAM but BAM cannot survive without Badminton!
Players should be able to participate without National Associations controlling them . Agree. BAM was formed to promote Badminton in Malaysia. It was formed decades ago when sports were not commercialised. Today, we find many private companies wishing to commercialise Badminton. Personally, I wish that Badminton can follow Tennis; where most players and coaches are independent. Having made the above comments, we still need National Associations to organise their players when we have inter-nations events such as the Thomas Cup, Uber Cup, Sudirman Cup, etc... But for individual events such as the World Championships, SS tournaments, other individual National Opens, etc..., players should still be able to participate without National Associations entering their players. .
I cant really understand the thinking : 1) MS apparently basically wants talented players to move up faster thru the ranks, express if necessary especially his son so that they can get a chance to spar with LCW and improve by leaps and bounds like the Thai players. 2) Committee thinks that a cohort of players should stick together and not break ranks, they think that in the future when there is no LCW the team will stick together with depth and breadth.They seem to think that if the backup team is broken up now there may be reliance on only 1-2 players in future . Perhaps they are no longer interested in producing SS kings but rather a team that works together to win individual titles or team events, not outstanding individuals a cut above the rest. Or is it because the committee thinks MS can produce good results with LCW but not the juniors. I think no.2 is harder to understand . MS 's decision not to coach anymore may give LCW no choice but to stay with BAM.
For the Olympic Games, we need National Associations to play their part . Mails were received that I have forgotten about the Olympic Games. I am sorry to have left out this event out. Yes, for the Olympic Games, we still need National Associations to coordinate/select who their players are to participate. .
