Dislocated my arm-2nd time

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  1. madwolfie

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    Hope all are getting on well now!

    I'm lucky yet to have dislocation *crosses her fingers* and I hope never to have... (although only playing for a year plus)

    A tennis elbow had me out of court for a week even though I was suggested to stay out for 2 weeks and more. Just felt so restless not being able to play!!!

    I know this has decreased my reaction time and power for sure and it sucks big time! Everytime I do a weight lift action with my right arm, my elbow gives a cracking sound (if I use some force, that is) this is bad, is it?

    Someone care to shed a light on this? :(
     
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    Cracking and popping sounds in the joints are known as crepitus. Crepitus is normally caused by the compression of air spaces in the synovial (lubricating) fluid, and is perfectly harmless.

    Accompanied by other symptoms, however, such as pain or swelling, crepitus can be a sign of joint damage. If you're at all worried about this, check with your doctor.

    Source: the Arthritis Foundation newsletter
     
  3. madwolfie

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    Hey Gollum! Thanks! :)

    There's no pain accompanying it so I'm not worried... just wondering if it was normal at all to hear the cracking that often.

    It all happened because I wasn't using the backhand grip, I just can't seem to do it and merely twist my wrist around to hit the shot. Tried out the thumb support-backhand grip last night and it seems that I can work on it! :p
     
  4. Gollum

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    It's hard to say. Different people get different amounts of joint noise, and it depends on the activity that you're doing at the time.

    Joint noises can be pretty disconcerting, but there's no need to worry if you are otherwise asymptomatic.

    Having said that, you do have a recent history of injury in that area of your body; this might be reason enough for a quick check with your doctor. If nothing else, it would help put your mind at rest. :)
     
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    Think it should be ok :p tee hee hee :D I do wear an elbow support sometimes to prevent further injury. Quite often than not, I forget to pack it in the bag *LOL*
     
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    A 3.0 T MRI scan is also helpful in helping the orthopedic doctor to diagnose the problem.
     
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    I wouldn't say that it is unnatural, just think about how you throw a rock or pull yourself up a tree,

    It seems to me that a more common shoulder injury that occurs is impingement: when a nerve running through the area gets pressed on, which reduces the ability of your shoulder to function. With overhead athletes, the acromion (the pointy end of your shoulder blade) becomes more hook shaped, so we're more prone to "catching" a nerve with overhead motions.

    One thing to do is to pay attention to your shoulder stabilizers. Often, they get tired before the main muscles do, meaning you might still be able to do the movement, but with the space in your shoulder (the subacromial space) compromised. So, one thing you can do to avoid shoulder injury is to pay attention to your shoulder stabilizer to regulate your exercise. When they go, stop with overhead training.
     
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    I meant skeletally, overhead action is an unnatural action in accordance to human bone structure, and is inherently unstable, compared to underhand action. That doesn't mean we're not supposed to throw a rock or climb trees, its simply we're much more prone to injury whilst performing actions that require overhead movement.
     
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    I think you probably didnt dislocate your shoulder. Otherwise your Ortho surgeon would have got you to do some shoulder repair. You would usually proceed to an X-ray of the shoulder and possibly an MRI. You would usually need to do some physiotherapy / rehabilitation exercises for at least 12 weeks.
     
  10. Joanne

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    Ouch you allowed it to happen so frequently without seeing a doctor?? 6 months off court... now thats a major blow. Perhaps you can still play, just take the front net, do more underhand shots than overhead ones..

    Actually my shoulder dislocated more than twice since than, but usually went back in place when I completed the swing. Will hurt a bit the next day, but since I only train once a week now I've got plenty of time to recover.

    Every time it happens I don't tell anyone though, I really don't want to visit any doctors. The orthopedic doc made me stop playing for 1 month! :p As long as it goes back in place immediately I can remain quiet about it, but my fear is that one day it doesn't go back like the time when I posted this thread...


    Hmm.. for me I trained my wrists up because my shoulder is weak from the few dislocations. Hehe. My coach told me to strengthen my shoulders but every time I did any light weights my shoulder would hurt for a couple of days, and after a while I decided not to do further damage unto my already weak shoulders. Lol. Thus, I strengthened my wrists.

    Sad to say, even up to today when I do push ups (which kill me but I do it when coaches want me to) it really kills my right shoulder off. My left shoulder will feel just fine but right shoulder will really really burn during the exercise, and hurt the next day.

    Hmm.. have not posted here in such a long time... will be disappearing soon again, exams coming... after Dec. 3rd I'll be on a break for a few months though! :D Till then, will have to live with training once a week. :cool:
     
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    No wonder I haven't seen you for quite a while - and you said you were studying! ;)
     
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    Every time it happens you are suffering semi-permanent ligament damage. If you see a specialist doctor (yes, such as your orthopaedic doctor!), then you may be able to limit or partially reverse the damage.

    No matter how good your doctor is, he can't help you if you won't tell him the truth! He needs to be informed of your condition, and your anxiety is keeping him in the dark.

    Note that doctors usually recommend conservative treatment at first, because it is the safest method. With a persistent injury that fails to respond to conservative treatment, they may look into surgical options.

    I don't know about the options for ligament surgery; you may simply be able to have them shortened (to improve their elasticity). It may be that a (relatively) safe and straightforward operation could stop you from dislocating your shoulder again.

    Of course, there might not be any good surgical options. I don't know, and you don't know. What I do know is that your injury will only get worse if untreated.

    I know it's hard to confront these things; I was putting off talking to my GP about surgery for months. But I'm now glad I (at last) went to see him. I hope and expect to be able to say that in 3-4 months time, when I should have recovered from impending surgery and finally be rid of chronic shoulder pain.
     
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    :p I have been studying. Partially. =) Panic mode hasn't begun yet, so I keep falling asleep on my book. :D

    Hehe, my doc threatened to 'gas' me(in other words, operation) the next time it happens again... so... I decided... never to visit him again. ;) He talked about putting some metallic device into my shoulder... not shortening ligaments (eeew). Either way, it sounds really bad. But hey, it doesn't happen often, I can sense 'loose-shoulder' days, and I usually play/train more carefully then.

    Anyone here knows of any medication that can be consumed to strengthened the ligaments again? Any way to tighten the ligaments besides cutting me up?
     
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    I think that's a bad decision.

    Your doctor can't force you to do anything; but he can explain the options, and then you can choose. At the moment, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "I can't hear you! La, la, la!" ;)

    If there's some personal issue about your doctor -- say, you just don't like him -- then see someone else. You have the right.

    No. You're stuck with loose ligaments forever.

    I'm hypermobile, which means I have inherited loose ligaments (I was born with them). Consequently I am more prone to joint injury than "normal" people. There's no way for me to change this. The best I can do is to work on improving muscle balance/condition, to increase my joint stability.

    Again, there might be a surgical option. I don't know. My ligaments aren't loose enough for it to be worth enquiring (I've never dislocated anything).
     
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    it happened to me.02 i dislocated my shoulder and 3 months ago happen again. what you did wrong is using too much arm and shoulder instead of wrist and finger. you need to traine your wrist
     
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    You're right about the "sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "I can't hear you! La, la, la!" part. :p Well, I don't like him because I had to stop training for a whole month, after that only had less than 2 weeks I think to train for a tournament(in which I lost rubber set in singles, so if I had trained..). So yes, I don't like him for an absolutely childish reason :eek: and because of him I have developed this fear for all doctors. Haha. I mean, I always had some fear of doctors(not needles, but the bad news that they bring), and by connecting loss of badminton -> doctors..

    I'm stuck with loose ligaments forever?? That sounds a bit sad.. well, not the end of the world.. so long I don't over train(I cut down a lot now) or over play..

    But honestly I believe there is a way to cure it. Perhaps I may someday visit an orthopaedic doctor with some interest in sports injuries and find out..

    That's precisely what I've done, strengthened my wrist. But sometimes in the excitement of a game I tend to overdue things.. :(
     
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    I could be wrong. So far as I know there is no way to tighten loose ligaments (except, perhaps, surgery).

    Unfortunately, some injuries are permanent, and some people (such as me) have inherently inferior bodies due to our genes. :(

    Oh well, at least my genes gave me an unusually good brain. :D

    That's a great idea. :)
     
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    my guest is you learned to ply badminton not in your early age, just like me so it kind of hard to change your game. oh ya... you must rest for six week and you ll be ok again.that s what my occupational therapy said.
    not bad if you badminton maniak
     
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    Lol! No.. I went for training since a young age.. injuries like dislocated shoulders and injured wrists started to creep in only when I trained competitively(so called anyway).

    But anyway that was.. 2 years ago. Now injuries are rare occurrences, although they still do happen when I'm not careful enough(just sprained my ankle during training last Sunday). :rolleyes: I think injuries just like me.. A LOT.

    Like Gollum, I may have inherited loose ligaments. My dad dislocated his shoulder before too.. so maybe there's 'bad' genes in me too. Lol. *Shrugs* I've no idea.
     
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    I have had problems with shoulder tendinitis for a while and I can tell you that the best medicine was to lay of badminton for a while. I still play less often, but my shoulder has gotten better. I was surprised to hear that your coach was telling you to do push ups:confused:. I dont think you should do anything to really agravate the shoulder. Take it easy, and see a doctor who deals with shoulder dislocation and knows what he/she is talking about. Follow there advice and dont be stubborn.;)
     

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