twobeer, i don't know about you man but i really get the hang of it the more i play it. quite different analogy for golf but i agree I play better golf with yonex rdis series than when i first drive out with full steel (just pure equipment without the technology)--it's a killer. anyways, arc zs is for me...guess: one man's medicine is another man's poison. but i can not get to grips how the pros would shun the harder (initially i supposed) to accustomised to rackets? really? they can not improve their wins upon it in a timely manner? or it is just that nobody wants to get into the unknown? and since non pros, fans and enthusiasts of the sport don't play for fame and money therefore it is easier to really try out and discover things? i get it that pros don't have too much time to fine tune their game specially if the next big game (and money) is on the line--no point for the pros tinkering with their own results (rankings and monetary gains) huh! hey just a thought, would you have a slight variattion in observation if you were wielding a 2u GR version? MetalOrange p.s. regarding FOCUS, well you understand sometimes we play so much that we could be lax and play lazy baddie at times and still get away with it. for instance, after a few sessions with arc zs, i'll switch back to ns9900 and everything comes naturally much easier, thus...ah, you know what i mean.
I was wondering how does Arc10 compare to Arc Z and what should I get? Arc10 easier to hit but Arc Z is harder to hit and is faster? Hard to decide
I have not a big problem with its small sweetspot in general (I love tc700 that has an semi-iso frame and quite small sweetspot as well. I have no problem controlling a flat-on smash with the Z. But I don't think the "sweetspot" is all that relevant when doing fast sliced drop, or in many blocks/defensive dives etc. thats when you will have some advantage of a larger stringbed No, I do not think that is it, as I mentioned earlier I think the sweetspot isnt very big on tightly strung classic frames etc. i used. If you have used it for so long time, I cannot se how you can adjust your timing any further?!? What aspect of the shots do you think you can adjust more, apart from adjusting to the balance/timing of the racket?!?! yupp Thats why there are so many models to choose from :-D Probably a 2u DP if anything ..Actually i do beleive I would like a 2U more of it.. maybe someone wants to trade my 3u for a 2u My thinking for pro's is really by looking at the choices they make, and the current dominance of ISOs versus classic frame-designs.. If pros in general was ready to trade power for "forgiveness", I bet all would be using classic head instead of ISOs.. YY could have made the top less flat as well to make the sweetspot even smaller (and even more revarding), but as always it is a compromise.. I just can't figure out exactly what their reasoning was making the stringbed narrower (apart from being "different") ... Yes, I know and that is kind of my main gripe about the Arc-Z.. that after using it (tried it 4 session now) whatever racket i switch to from it seems so friendly... That is not flattering to the Z imop..
I agree with many points Master TwoBeer raised about the Z. Especially the first one. I have to get use to the narrower frame and I still get lazy some time. I think for many of members here (me not included), sweet spot size is not the main issue. It is the location. Because of the longer shaft and smaller frame, the sweet post shifted up quite a bit and we are still think it is at same location and try to swing the same way. also the handle is shorter so for the user who like to grab the cone, the racquet is actually longer while for user like me like to grab the end of handle, weight distribution feel little funky...
As Voldemont et al previously mentioned, this racket is definitely lighter in the hand than Arc-10. The BP is approximately 290-295 mm with a single overgrap wrapped to the edge of the cone coupled with BG-85.
This is exactly what I feel too. When I play net or when serving, I would grab the cone, so it give a flexi feel.
421, wow! perhaps 500 is just in the horizon. i wonder if 400 can be done in a consistent manner even by (pretty good) enthusiasts.
i just translated the page using google translator... hope this will help [319] 「ARCSABER Z-SLASH」スマッシュ初速計測を行い、最高速度421km/hを記録しました。 [319] "ARCSABER Z-SLASH" smash and muzzle velocity measurements, maximum speed 421km / h was recorded. " バドミントン " " 製品情報 " "Badminton" "Products" From: From: YONEXスタッフ YONEX Staff ヨネックスではトップ選手の協力を得て、新発売の「ARCSABER Z-SLASH」を用いてのスマッシュ初速計測を行いました。 Yonex is the cooperation of the top players, the new release "ARCSABER Z-SLASH" muzzle velocity measurements made using a smash. 計測概要 About Measurement 実施会場:ヨネックスオープンジャパン2009会場内、東京体育館サブアリーナにて Venue: Venue Yonekkusuopunjapan in 2009, at Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium Sub Arena 計測日: 2009年9月26日(土) Sun Measurements: September 26, 2009 (Sat) 最高速度記録: 421km/h 記録者=タン・ブンホン(マレーシア) Recording speed: 421km / h by recording = Bunhon Tan (Malaysia) その他の実施選手: Implementation of the other players: マルキス・キドー (インドネシア) Marquis Kido (Indonesia) ノバ・ウィディアント(インドネシア) Uidianto Nova (Indonesia) クー・ケンケット (マレーシア) Gasket Ken Koo (Malaysia) 海外トップ選手の中でもスマッシュに定評のあるタン・ブンホン選手(マレーシア)によってスマッシュ初速421km/hを記録しました! Tan Bunhon proven players among the top players to smash overseas (Malaysia) tempo smash the 421km / h was recorded. ヨネックスオープンジャパン2009では、男子ダブルス優勝のマルキス・キドー、男子シングルス準優勝のタウフィック・ヒダヤットをはじめ、国内外6名の選手に使用され、華々しくデビューした「ARCSABER Z-SLASH」。 Yonekkusuopunjapan 2009, the Marquis Kido Men's Doubles champions, runners, including the men's singles Taufik Hidayat, six international players names used, Shiku brilliant debut "ARCSABER Z-SLASH". 空気抵抗を抑える次世代スリムボディが、ヘッドの走る高速スウィングを生み、さらに速い攻撃的スマッシュを実現します。 Reduce the air resistance is the next generation slim, birth head swing speed run, providing a faster more aggressive smash. あなたのスマッシュはもっと速くなる! You will smash it up!