Breakfast before playing

[john10235]

If I have to play for 2 hours starting from 8:00am, should I have a breakfast before playing or just have some energy drinks before the play and have breakfast afterwards?

[bluejeff]

If you are hungry (like really hungry) then you should eat just a little bit, otherwise you might hurt your stomach in the long run

[604badder]

I can answer that for me. I do sometimes play at 8:30am, and I do find if I eat nothing beforehand that I'd start getting very tired physically about an hour into the session. During the game though I bring a lot of apple juice and small granola bars to keep me replenished every 1.5 -2 hours.

Given it is very early in the morning, I keep it very light (like a chinese coconut bun - aka "chicken tail" bun and a small glass of milk). I make sure I don't eat anything with a lot of liquid like cereal or noodles in soup. My stomach has complained to me before when I did that and followed up with vigorous exercise in the morning. The exact method of this compliant I'll leave to your imagination.

[armortec800]

I am experimenting: On occasions I would pant like a horse after into a doubles or singles game. I think the diet before going to badminton is very important.

If one consumes very oily stuff, like "Kueh Lipis" , a very oily kind of cake, is it good? I was panting the other day after I ate some oily cakes and going into the game.

Now I am more into drinking 1 cup of cereal, eat 2 chocolate candy bars, but this is around dinner time session(6 to 8pm). I agree our stomach cannot go empty during this crucial time which needs to digest something. So it is important, we need to digest something than an empty stomach.

And for drinking while playing, I am now only a litre of soya bean milk + water from drink fountain. It keeps me full of energy. Before I am drinking 100 plus (a high Sodium drink suppose to replenish lost salt through sweating), but I think it is not a healthy drink.

[vsara]

Looks like all of U guys are serious players, probably Pros. I play Badminton just as a hobby. Anyway, I have a serious doubt...

The thread talks about eating / drinking before playing Badminton either in the late morning / forenoon / evening, but what about very early in the morning. I play everyday between 6.30 to 8.30 in the morning, with a group of friends who too are just amateurs, playing just for fun / fitness. We play only doubles all the time, but run around quite a bit, enough to sweat profusely.

I always play without eating anything before playing. Sometimes just half a litre of Water. (And sometimes a glass or two during the game, and afterwards). But I have never faced any big tiredness during the games. Half an hour or so after that, I go for a heavy breakfast, and start the day - office etc. I have been playing for about a few years like this now. A professional sportswoman told me recently that this is bad and it will ruin my energy levels in the long run.

I will very much appreciate your views on this. And any advices on what I should do is welcome.

[wilfredlgf]

Originally Posted by armortec800

If one consumes very oily stuff, like "Kueh Lipis" , a very oily kind of cake, is it good? I was panting the other day after I ate some oily cakes and going into the game.

*FYI*
You mean kuih lapis?
For those outside S'pore and Malaysia, kuih lapis means 'layered cake' but it's not made of butter, flour and the thingamajig, but of glutinous rice. They are usually made in an aluminium tray by pouring one layer of colourful glutinous rice mixture (no idea what) after another, creating some sort of a 'layered cake' effect. The thing is then allowed to cool and then cut into diamond shapes. Kids often like to peel the layers and eat them one by one. Why exactly are they oily, I have no idea.
*FYI*

It should be all right since I even take flat rice noodle soup, fried rice and the works before my sessions during secondary school (doodz, was that years ago...). The only problem here is being overly full - to stop before you feel the stomach muscles stretch. Important is to have it stretch because of liquid, not solids because your body is very much 'dehydrated' from the nightlong sabbatical from water.

[armortec800]

Originally Posted by wilfredlgf

*FYI*
You mean kuih lapis?
For those outside S'pore and Malaysia, kuih lapis means 'layered cake' but it's not made of butter, flour and the thingamajig, but of glutinous rice. They are usually made in an aluminium tray by pouring one layer of colourful glutinous rice mixture (no idea what) after another, creating some sort of a 'layered cake' effect. The thing is then allowed to cool and then cut into diamond shapes. Kids often like to peel the layers and eat them one by one. Why exactly are they oily, I have no idea.
*FYI*

Yup, my bad, it is "lapis", but your version is the "Chinese" dessert made of the glutinous rice and probably steamed. It is usually eaten as a breakfast in Singapore too. The Indonesian version of “lapis� is oven baked and made of eggs, flour and assortment of indgredients that is very oily. It is meticulously baked with many layers and hence the name too.
Malaysia should have this kind of "kueh" too. It is not unique to Indonesia.

BTW, I do recommend to take breakfast but watch what we eat. Eat something light, yet is digestable and energy giving, Hunger will build up too much stomach acid and may sprank a leak inside and that is disastrous.

[Dill]

again I can only answer for me, when I play in any competition they tend to start at 9.00am (and finish when it is dark) to get the doubles in first and then mixed, then singles all in the one day.

I usually do not eat before playing and only take on liquids for the most part, if I feel hungry I go and have a Mars bar or a banana but not a whole one, just something to tide me over.

I tend not to play the mixed and have to kill some time in between the doubles and singles so sometimes straight after the doubles I will go for a McDonalds and it still gives me plenty of time (about 3 hours minimum) until the singles.

Maybe that's why I don't win either

[Saiful]

I used to play every sunday morning witha group friends. All of us are amateur. Our Session starts at 0830 - 1030 every Sunday. What we normaly did is to have early b/fast at 0730 with 1 piece of "Roti Canai" and a glass of "teh tarik". I personnaly fell that we should not let our stomach empty while enjoying our weekly badminton session.

[JRMTL]

Smoothies:

1 banana (mandatory)
Fruits as you wish (as rasberries, strawberries, ananas, peaches)
3 spoons of Nature Yogourt
Milk (not very much but to give a more liquid mixture)
a bit of orange juice (same reason as above)

Put all that in a mixer or robot, mix and you have a good breakfest for your tournament day or training session. I suggest also to eat a muffin with that.
Easy to digest.

Ok for 1 hour and a half before playing.

JRMTL

[Phil]

Ever heard the expression, "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day"? Studies have shown that students that skip breakfast do not perform as well, are less energetic and attentive in school compared to those that do have breakfast.

When playing badminton, especially a tournament, what you eat in the morning has a large effect on how you perform throughout the day. If playing all day, such as a tournament, a good breakfast involves complex carbohydrates, such as whole grain breads and cereals such as Shreddies. These foods release energy all day to your body. However, don't eat complex carbs near playing time (as in within an hour to hour and a half), because they take longer to digest and won't benefit you. Basically; complex carbs in morning, simpler foods throughout day. There's more to tournament nutrition, but this thread is only on breakfast. (I learned alot about nutrition and stuff from a team I was on)

Phil

[wilfredlgf]

Originally Posted by armortec800

Yup, my bad, it is "lapis"

Originally Posted by armortec800

... oven baked and made of eggs, flour and assortment of indgredients that is very oily. It is meticulously baked with many layers and hence the name too....

No bad, maybe that is how it's spelt in Indonesia? And with eggs, flour etc? I learn something new every day.

[Cheung]

Originally Posted by vsara

Looks like all of U guys are serious players, probably Pros. I play Badminton just as a hobby. Anyway, I have a serious doubt...

The thread talks about eating / drinking before playing Badminton either in the late morning / forenoon / evening, but what about very early in the morning. I play everyday between 6.30 to 8.30 in the morning, with a group of friends who too are just amateurs, playing just for fun / fitness. We play only doubles all the time, but run around quite a bit, enough to sweat profusely.

I always play without eating anything before playing. Sometimes just half a litre of Water. (And sometimes a glass or two during the game, and afterwards). But I have never faced any big tiredness during the games. Half an hour or so after that, I go for a heavy breakfast, and start the day - office etc. I have been playing for about a few years like this now. A professional sportswoman told me recently that this is bad and it will ruin my energy levels in the long run.

I will very much appreciate your views on this. And any advices on what I should do is welcome.

Fluid is definately important. Playing that early in the morning, it sounds like a late night meal would be just as good. Ruin energy levels in the long run? Exactly what sort of time period? 2 hours, 2 days, 2 months? And does that apply to playing the sport as a hobby as opposed to being a professional sportsperson?

[604badder]

This caught my eye from the Singapore Sports School thread. Check out their morning schedule for their students

Source : http://www.sportsschool.edu.sg/legal/sss/admission.htm

This is the daily routine of our students:

0600 hrs : Rise and Shine
0630 hrs : Training Session 1
0800 hrs : Breakfast
0900 hrs : School
1400 hrs : Lunch, Enrichment programmes and afternoon nap
1600 hrs : Training Session 2
1830 hrs : Dinner
1930 hrs : Supervised study time
2130 hrs : Free time
2230 hrs : Lights out.

Notice the training session before breakfest. Interesting.

[jug8man]

Originally Posted by 604badder

This caught my eye from the Singapore Sports School thread. Check out their morning schedule for their students

Source : http://www.sportsschool.edu.sg/legal/sss/admission.htm

This is the daily routine of our students:

0600 hrs : Rise and Shine
0630 hrs : Training Session 1
0800 hrs : Breakfast
0900 hrs : School
1400 hrs : Lunch, Enrichment programmes and afternoon nap
1600 hrs : Training Session 2
1830 hrs : Dinner
1930 hrs : Supervised study time
2130 hrs : Free time
2230 hrs : Lights out.

Notice the training session before breakfest. Interesting.

training sesion is only 1 1/2 hour. thats before taking into account time to warm up, warm down, change clothes and travel from the hall to the cafeteria. shouldnt bother most ppl too much i think

[bluejeff]

I am going to add a little note:

If you are really hungry in the morning buy you are going to play badminton before breakfast, you can try to eat some snacks.....like sneakers, chocolate....etc.

Put something in your stomach....at least some "little things" helps

[Break-My-String]

Originally Posted by bluejeff

...If you are really hungry in the morning...try to eat some snacks.....like sneakers...

*yuk* it's bad enough with the smell , imagine trying to eat the insoles for breakfast!

Cheers!