Playing for Money

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  1. cooler

    cooler Regular Member

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    I'm not advocating betting, especially among many younger players here, but i hear many SE asian players (MAL, brunei) like to play for money or shuttles or they wont play with you or they wont play with best effort.

    i've never played for a 'prize' before but yesterday after winning a close MD game, the opponents (MAL descent) challenge us to play for money, first to 21 points(only 20 mins court time left) win 1 measly dollar each person. It was my first time to accept a play for money challenge. It was evenly matched to 12-12 and then we were up on 18-12. Then the opponents want to change the score to 21 as a set point, asking us to set 2 or 3 on 21st. We declined and wanna keep the orginal bet as first to 21 points win. :p

    then they caught up to us 19-19, then it's 20-20. It seem with something on the line ($1), everyone is so alert and must think though each hit, each rally and appreciate each point and angerish each miss. Match point serve was switched 3 times over on each side. Finally we prevail on the on our 4th match point attempt. I think playing for something, even $1, feel like playing in a tournament without the being in a tournament.

    Anyone has this kind of feeling?

    (btw, it took us 25mins to finish that last game)
     
  2. Pete LSD

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    There is this VRC group that likes to bet on and off courts. It's a mix of Malay, Brunei, HK and Mainland Chinese. I don't know why people, such as this group, like to bet so much. If you play against them they may want to bet on pepsi or a few dollars. Off courts one hears how much they lost last week in a casino ;) . Bad habit . . . I say.

     
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    Not that i encourage gambling, but betting a small amount of money does help and make the game much more fun (as in everyone is playing with their best, much more focus...etc). The thing i hate about people is when they play with a don't care attitude (hit a careless shot, then laugh and joke with other people). By putting something on the line, it will eliminate that. It will also take away a lot of wild trick shots, since people now can't afford to give up any points.
     
  4. cooler

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    even tho i've coined the term 'betting', playing for money or things is, imo, not a true form of gambling. In gambling, there are variables which the players have no control over the outcome (roll of dice, weather, flip of coins, etc) If i feel i won because of luck, then it's gambling but i entered the 'bet' knowing i can control the outcome more so than playing roulette. However betting on someone elses game is (sport betting) gambling because u just playing the odds and stats, and have no control over the event.

    good example: pros play for money in tournament, surely they didn't pick badminton as a gambling career ;) :D
     
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    I actually think its a cool idea

    provided you do it with people you know are trustworth

    and ifs its not too much money, like you said 1$ per game or something.
     
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    yes, it is meant as to prove a point or outcome, not getting rich from it.

    (just like in Trading Places, one dah la bet) ;)
     
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    Incidentially, this group do bet on other peoples' games. ;)



     
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    It should be ok if people are only allow to bet on the games they play, and of course they have to bet on themselves to win :)
     
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    You guys should get a round robin tournament going, with everyone throwing in $1 and the best doubles pair wins the whole pot. Or even better, if you have a big group of people that are willing to do it, draw names out of a hat so you dont know who your partner will be! Fun and cheap way to get the best out of your partner!!

    :p :)
     
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    This group at Brittania (local community center) plays for Coke and Pho (Vietnamese noodles). The foursome go for a meal after the game, losers paying for the winners Coke/Pho :D

    -dave
     
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    different ppl will have different value systems when it comes to involving money in recreational games.

    to me, my "gamble" for losing the match is losing my spot in the court. in Bintang, there are some courts designated as "challenge court". ie. winners stays. and there is usually a line of ppl waiting. there is certainly enough incentive to win the games under this arrangement.
     
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    Love the method.:)

    One system is loser pays 2RM to a pot. This goes to paying court/shuttle expenses.

    To keep goodwill (and cheaper badminton) subsidies are in order. Being paired with a weaker player against two evenly matched guys adds to the excitement.

    I like Bintang's challenge court!
     
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    i challenged my friend at school last year for 40 bux and he beat me....
    its good cuz hes usually a lazy player thats too lazy to go for anything.. but when 40dollars is on the stake, he tries his hardest
     
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    I heard Tony Gunawan played open gym people for dinner in SoCal.
     
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    Not with badminton, but I used to with 10-pin bowling. Not cash money, just loser buys the beers. Concentration levels did go up a bit with something at stake.
     
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    US$40??? Isn't that a bit too much for kids??? :eek:
     
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    LOL, maybe you're drinking WHILE bowling, 'just a bit' more concentration is quite good imo :p
     
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    One idea is if you want singles practice you can ask somebody who is a good bit better than you for a game, and agree that you will pay them €10 (or whatever) for the hours play provided they don't drop any sets against you. This ensures that the person doesn't start messing around for the last 15 mins if they have already won the last 3 sets or whatever... You can play loser pays for the court, but if you're playing with the same person regularly then unless the 2 players are very even standard then 1 of the players will tend to win most of the time, hence the other guy getting tired of paying for all the badminton lol :D.
     
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    Kids have deep pockets these days man :).
     
  20. jcl49

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    3 games a day and all his subsistence living requirements are met!
    jl
     

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