Fischer Air Carbon

Scott Kam · 02-18-2003, 01:18 AM

Fischer is a tennis racket manufacturer but miraculously I've found a badminton racket. Any idea?

badrad · 02-18-2003, 02:54 AM

fischer has an on again off again affair with badminton. years ago they brought out a couple of one piece racquets called the Defender and Winner. Their claim was an extremely stiff racquet. I was one of those poor sods that bought a several of them. On close inspection of three that I bought from the same store, all three had slight differences. One had slightly thicker shaft than the other two. another had a rounder less pronounced 'wide body head'. I was lucky to find a 'sucke - oops - buyer for them afterwards.

Scott Kam · 02-18-2003, 03:34 AM

Can't imagine that they did such a bad job in QC

badrad · 02-18-2003, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Scott Kam
Can't imagine that they did such a bad job in QC

Oh I didn't mean to say that the racquets were particularly bad. If I only bought 1, I would not even know the diff, the quality and paint job were very good. But having three at the same time, it was bugging me that all three were slightly different from each other, considering they were the same model.

Winex West Can · 02-18-2003, 10:17 AM

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Oh I didn't mean to say that the racquets were particularly bad. If I only bought 1, I would not even know the diff, the quality and paint job were very good. But having three at the same time, it was bugging me that all three were slightly different from each other, considering they were the same model.

Maybe they were trying to follow Yonex's CN/CP vs. SP racquets

forrestyung · 02-18-2003, 10:19 AM

Hi Scott, you also aware other brands' racket!!

I have bought the 1st generation of fischer badminton racket 10 years before. One called Winner for defensive playing and another one called Offensive.

Offensive (regular shape) is a great racket in performance but poor durability. I loved it very much and won many matches during the short time I using it - less than two months. The racket broke at the point between the handle and shaft.

Winner has diamond shape shaft, extremely stiff, hardly to adapt for me. It finally broke at the same location.

I have bought a pro number 1 half year before from Dragon. Great racket in control and power, but the vibration is too great and I do not like it. I have borrowed this racket to one of my friends who loves the vibration very much. Paint job is very smart!!! I only can say it is not suite me. May be the tennis technologies not suitable for badminton.

I also see the rossignol, donnay and dunlop badminton rackets before. Is there any guy has tried them??

ronk · 02-18-2003, 05:31 PM

Dunlop was the premier racket manufacturer (along with Grey) in the age of the dinosaurs when all wood rackets or wood rackets with steel shafts were kings. Anyone remembers Dunlop Maxply under 5, where under 5 ounces (under 140gms) was considered light, and 120gms was untra light. I believe that Dunlop bought over Carlton and they no longer make rackets with the Dunlop brand much but sell most of their rackets under the Carlton brand (I may be wrong here).

Ron

forrestyung · 02-19-2003, 12:16 AM

Hi Ron,

I think Carlton, Slazenger and Dunlop are same business group. In a few years before, I find the three brands using same web page.

The only Dunlop Carbon rackets that I have seem is 1987, then no more Dunlop Carbon rackets appear. I agreed with Ron that Dunlop has purshased Carlton and Dunlop is no needs to develop any badminton rackets.

Scott Kam · 02-19-2003, 02:30 AM

Hi Forrest,

Can't imagine someone loves vibration (I mean for rackets!!).

BTW, I think it is the amateur's privilege to have the freedom of choice in rackets. I love market economy!!

forrestyung · 02-19-2003, 05:55 AM

The person loves vibration is my badminton stuff supplier.

Because of interest, he resigned his job and buy this shop.

One of question to all. Yamaha also has a lot of racket in 1980's and some in nowadays. Anyone tried them?? The old YB-70 is a good stuff.

Scott Kam · 02-19-2003, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by forrestyung
The person loves vibration is my badminton stuff supplier.

Because of interest, he resigned his job and buy this shop.

One of question to all. Yamaha also has a lot of racket in 1980's and some in nowadays. Anyone tried them?? The old YB-70 is a good stuff.

Yes! Yes!

I had a piece of Yamaha when I was studying "A" level in '86. I broke it when I was playing at a local match (too small to be remember its name). I can't recall the model but it was quite advance at that time since it had a built-in T-joint. I like it most because of the balance, softness, speed and control (and maybe because I broke it). I haven't found the similar touch until I got a Wilson Hyper Carbon 1.0 recently. The Yamaha I got is purple-blue in colour. Can you help me to identify the model, Forrest?

forrestyung · 02-20-2003, 10:00 AM

Hey, I really find a funny guy like me..

I cannot remember other Yamaha rackets other than those I have used before.

Hey Scott, I have also bought a hyper carbon 4 because of it's outlook and the signature. The racket is too light for me, I think I get used to 2U models. How do you think about your hyper carbon 1??

I like to try some famous brand but not expensive rackets.

Scott Kam · 02-20-2003, 08:31 PM

It's a real pleasure talking to you on this racket-collecting hobby

For the Wilson Hyper Carbon series, I bought 5.0 first, then 4.0, and finally 1.0. My preference is:

1.0 >> 5.0 >> 4.0

I totally agree with your comments on 4.0. And I also bought it for the signature

1.0 is the best for me cos of it's speed, lightness and power (the balance point is a bit towards the head but this doesn't make me feel too heavy, stiffness just make!!)

5.0 is a well balance one but not speedy as 1.0. Maybe because of the P.W.S. structure at the frame that drags the speed down.

I'll buy another piece of 1.0 for standby purpose. 1.0 will definitely be with me in the court for a while.

Any new target, Forrest?

forrestyung · 02-22-2003, 10:56 AM

Dear Scott,

There are my three new targets:

Yonex 906DX
Bridgestone
Iso 800 CN in old logo

I hope I can get all of them.

Regards,
Forrest

Scott Kam · 02-24-2003, 01:39 AM

Hi Forrest!

Bridgestone used to make tyres. You're so adventurous

Any background info about this comapny? I found a website displaying the models. All are pre-strung and the top-of-the-line one costs 17,000 Yen. It doesn't seem to be promising. Look forward to receiving your reports

forrestyung · 02-27-2003, 06:32 AM

Dear Scott,

I have seem the Bridgestone racket from my supplier a year before. It has two more set main strings holes. One pack of string is not long enough, must use two packs of string to string a racket. The racket surface is also a little bit larger than other oval head rackets.

It should be non-strung in Japan. I never tried it and my supplier promised me to find a new one to me. I am still waiting........................................... .....

The owner said it is a good racket, but no boady can prove......

I will call you after I got it.

What is your next target??

Scott Kam · 03-03-2003, 02:45 AM

Dear Forrest,

I've just bought another piece of Wilson Hyper Carbon 1.0. Perhaps Babolat is my next target.

02-18-2003, 01:18 AM	#1
Scott Kam Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 351	Fischer Air Carbon Fischer is a tennis racket manufacturer but miraculously I've found a badminton racket. Any idea?

02-18-2003, 02:54 AM	#2
badrad Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Surrey, Canada Posts: 1,505	fischer has an on again off again affair with badminton. years ago they brought out a couple of one piece racquets called the Defender and Winner. Their claim was an extremely stiff racquet. I was one of those poor sods that bought a several of them. On close inspection of three that I bought from the same store, all three had slight differences. One had slightly thicker shaft than the other two. another had a rounder less pronounced 'wide body head'. I was lucky to find a 'sucke - oops - buyer for them afterwards.

02-18-2003, 03:34 AM	#3
Scott Kam Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 351	Can't imagine that they did such a bad job in QC

02-18-2003, 10:19 AM	#6
forrestyung Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 899	Hi Scott, you also aware other brands' racket!! I have bought the 1st generation of fischer badminton racket 10 years before. One called Winner for defensive playing and another one called Offensive. Offensive (regular shape) is a great racket in performance but poor durability. I loved it very much and won many matches during the short time I using it - less than two months. The racket broke at the point between the handle and shaft. Winner has diamond shape shaft, extremely stiff, hardly to adapt for me. It finally broke at the same location. I have bought a pro number 1 half year before from Dragon. Great racket in control and power, but the vibration is too great and I do not like it. I have borrowed this racket to one of my friends who loves the vibration very much. Paint job is very smart!!! I only can say it is not suite me. May be the tennis technologies not suitable for badminton. I also see the rossignol, donnay and dunlop badminton rackets before. Is there any guy has tried them??

02-18-2003, 05:31 PM	#7
ronk Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,014	Dunlop was the premier racket manufacturer (along with Grey) in the age of the dinosaurs when all wood rackets or wood rackets with steel shafts were kings. Anyone remembers Dunlop Maxply under 5, where under 5 ounces (under 140gms) was considered light, and 120gms was untra light. I believe that Dunlop bought over Carlton and they no longer make rackets with the Dunlop brand much but sell most of their rackets under the Carlton brand (I may be wrong here). Ron

02-19-2003, 12:16 AM	#8
forrestyung Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 899	Hi Ron, I think Carlton, Slazenger and Dunlop are same business group. In a few years before, I find the three brands using same web page. The only Dunlop Carbon rackets that I have seem is 1987, then no more Dunlop Carbon rackets appear. I agreed with Ron that Dunlop has purshased Carlton and Dunlop is no needs to develop any badminton rackets.

02-19-2003, 02:30 AM	#9
Scott Kam Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 351	Hi Forrest, Can't imagine someone loves vibration (I mean for rackets!!). BTW, I think it is the amateur's privilege to have the freedom of choice in rackets. I love market economy!!

02-19-2003, 05:55 AM	#10
forrestyung Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 899	The person loves vibration is my badminton stuff supplier. Because of interest, he resigned his job and buy this shop. One of question to all. Yamaha also has a lot of racket in 1980's and some in nowadays. Anyone tried them?? The old YB-70 is a good stuff.

02-20-2003, 10:00 AM	#12
forrestyung Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 899	Hey, I really find a funny guy like me.. I cannot remember other Yamaha rackets other than those I have used before. Hey Scott, I have also bought a hyper carbon 4 because of it's outlook and the signature. The racket is too light for me, I think I get used to 2U models. How do you think about your hyper carbon 1?? I like to try some famous brand but not expensive rackets.

02-20-2003, 08:31 PM	#13
Scott Kam Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 351	It's a real pleasure talking to you on this racket-collecting hobby For the Wilson Hyper Carbon series, I bought 5.0 first, then 4.0, and finally 1.0. My preference is: 1.0 >> 5.0 >> 4.0 I totally agree with your comments on 4.0. And I also bought it for the signature 1.0 is the best for me cos of it's speed, lightness and power (the balance point is a bit towards the head but this doesn't make me feel too heavy, stiffness just make!!) 5.0 is a well balance one but not speedy as 1.0. Maybe because of the P.W.S. structure at the frame that drags the speed down. I'll buy another piece of 1.0 for standby purpose. 1.0 will definitely be with me in the court for a while. Any new target, Forrest?

02-22-2003, 10:56 AM	#14
forrestyung Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 899	Dear Scott, There are my three new targets: Yonex 906DX Bridgestone Iso 800 CN in old logo I hope I can get all of them. Regards, Forrest

02-24-2003, 01:39 AM	#15
Scott Kam Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 351	Hi Forrest! Bridgestone used to make tyres. You're so adventurous Any background info about this comapny? I found a website displaying the models. All are pre-strung and the top-of-the-line one costs 17,000 Yen. It doesn't seem to be promising. Look forward to receiving your reports

02-27-2003, 06:32 AM	#16
forrestyung Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 899	Dear Scott, I have seem the Bridgestone racket from my supplier a year before. It has two more set main strings holes. One pack of string is not long enough, must use two packs of string to string a racket. The racket surface is also a little bit larger than other oval head rackets. It should be non-strung in Japan. I never tried it and my supplier promised me to find a new one to me. I am still waiting........................................... ..... The owner said it is a good racket, but no boady can prove...... I will call you after I got it. What is your next target??

03-03-2003, 02:45 AM	#17
Scott Kam Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 351	Dear Forrest, I've just bought another piece of Wilson Hyper Carbon 1.0. Perhaps Babolat is my next target.