What is still lacking in LCW?

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    Of course LD is better than LCW today maybe partly he's fresher.Just as WYH beat TR today partly with the advantage of less court time.
    You don't know how LD lost to TH in WC06? One key reason offered was LD had a tough SF while TH cruised through his.
     
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    to conclude, LD is much better than LCW....but, please, don't take the pride and hardwork from LCW. Without giving full commitment in training, with his build and talents, I don't think LCW can come this far...
     
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    i didnt mean to demean lcw at all. I only noted what are the differences as per thread title subject. LCW is the only player that could test LD's limit. I do admire lcw training diligence. I even say lcw is the best MAS MS i saw since the rashid's day. I'm too young to know about former MAS greats before rashid:D I even will say lcw has ALL THE QUALITY OF LIN DAN against other players, except when playing against LD. Is that a fair statement?
     
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    Just my 3 sens..

    As i've mentioned in the Finals thread, the way i see it, with the way LinDan has played against LCW in their last 3 meetings, realistically, there is little or no chance for LCW to come out ahead.
    For one, LCW had his chances in today's Finals, esp. in the 1st game, with a 2 pt lead, late in the game. Yet, what happened?
    Both LD and LCW, if i recall, made roughly the same amt of errors.
    But as is often the case, when there are 2 parties fighting for the bragging right, one has to come out ahead and the other not. Partly the onus is on LCW, but partly also on LD.
    mam, you don't wanna leave out the Danish fans, do you??..:confused: ;)
     
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    of coz not...that little kitten is a strong supporter for Danes...we nearly fought during WS final just now...she complained I chanted 'jia you' too loud that cost Tine the match...
     
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    lol, the kitten need to meow... i mean roar louder:)
     
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    The first game was close only because of LD's bad habit of making things interesting. LD is clearly a superior athlete to LCW. LCW needs to possess superior technique to win. That clearly is not the case.

    LCW is a solid No 2, but a lot closer to No 3 than to No 1. At the moment, LD is in a class by himself.
     
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    Off Topic...

    well, in cat family, the ratio of jia youian : danishian = 3 : 1, plus that kitten is a kitten, can only 'fu', 'ke' and 'meow' loudly, but can't roar (not tiger nor lion)

    ps - if u rear kitten, u should know what is 'fu' n 'ke'....:p
     
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    Off topic-Actually..

    ..i was looking for a chant in Danish..:p;)
     
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    Eventhough I'm a hardcore LCW fan but I have to accept :crying: that LD still 1 class above LCW. Like in this match most of LCW points are from LD errors. I think Dato Misbun should concentrate LCW training on how to force LD make mistakes. If that still not work, I think Malaysia should consider offering LD a "Tun" become a Malaysian citizen :D.
     
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    LCW lacks major titles... that's what he is lacking. LOL:p

    Seriously, today the two things that LCW were lacking:

    1. A stadium full of boleh fans with drums and 5' x 7' MAS flags

    2. Magic... when he was 12-20 down... he thought he was going to demonstrate his magic again like in MAS open 06, only to find out that NO.... He was still in England and not Malaysia.:p:p:p Magic only happens in his favor where boleh spirit is high.
     
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    what do you mean? he has "Datuk".... oh wait a minute. nevermind.
     
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    That's really harsh... even worse than me. LOL:eek:
     
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    joking aside. after watching the LCW / LD game, LCW lacks the sting and the ability to induce fear into opponent. in other words, he is too nice guy.

    LD, you know you will be deep poopoo whenever you lift, even if you can get ur string on the shuttle, you will be dead sooner or later, on the other hand, whenever LD lifts to LCW, it was like smash return practice. LD plays like he was taking a stroll in the park, but hiding behind the casualness and apparent ease, it was totally speed and acceleration with his movement and his ability to get to the shuttle at the earliest moment.

    and even if he misses it and loses a point, the ferocity induce fear.

    LCW, whenever he sees a opportunity, he goes for it. even if he wins the point, it did not induce fear.

    at the level of badminton, it is not really about skill anymore, it is all mental, and if you can induce a little bit more fear, that means a fraction of second in hesitation, that will cost you crucial points.
     
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    Honestly, it is not LCW losing for lack of skill, fitness, etc. etc but simply that LD is so much better than anyone out there. With TH and PG aging, LCW the closest to giving LD some token match resistance, soon LD can pick the tourney he wanna play and win. There really is noone to challenge LD.
    Considering LD achievements (I predict the WC or more WCs, AG or more AGs plus 12OG are LD to take unless someone come up in the next few years) he gonna be the best player CHN has ever produced to date. But looking at KOR, MAS, INA and DEN the future is as bleak as the world economy.
    Therefore to advance to AE final and to lose to the very best, should be some comfort;)
     

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