2012 London Olympics Day 4 (Tuesday 31st July)

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  1. twobeer

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    They should really disqualify all 4 pairs!! If they wanna loose at least you can demand some more solid acting performances :)

    I think it would be really hard for anyone to argue that any team tired to play to their best abilities in those games!

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  2. LD rules!

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    If they disqualify all 4 pairs then China still wins as they have a pair left in the competition :D
     
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    Waiting for Greysia to come on twitter and explain herself (if she will) will update you if she says anything! :)
     
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    I from now on, would never cheering on Meliana/Greysia anymore. :( I know maybe they were told by the team or whatever, that's their own risk.

    So sad. :(
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    HUFT!!! I am OFF to support INA WD in this OLYMPIC, hopefully Gold Medal of WD will go to DENMARK!!

    and PRAYING THAT INA WD WILL BE DEFEATED in QF in straight sets,

    sorry to say, but INDONESIA team never win by doing this kind of act, let flashback to Uber Cup 2012 in Group stage between INA Vs China :mad:
     
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    well, it seems they almost got the black card
    they should have done it straight away
    in this one, and the other women doubles
     
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    Well dont you wanna know what LYB want to explain himself first...
     
  8. kermitvselmo

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    Sigh, why didn't Polii/Jauhari try their best. They are not really medal contenders anyway.
    They look overweight for badminton players.
    So embarrassing for Indonesia.
     
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    I doubt much can be done. If players want to conserve energy, whether it'd be a knock-out stage or group play, so they can play hard for another event or group play match, it's THEIR discretion. They're the ones losing their olympic games. For fans, of course it sucks to see. But its technically not cheating, if they're only playing 30% of what they are capable of, and the opponents played higher. I don't see how an off-court official can make this an issue. Were they going to send the referee on court to tell Kenichi Tago to stop losing to Niluka? No! They paraded this as if it's a big upset. Logically, they're in a different group stage, and ideally you shouldn't lose, because then you're out. But my point being, a referee off court can't come onto court and "make/force" you to play "better". What if you aren't capable of it? at least on that day because of a minor injury etc? just because it appears to be an upset victory, doesn't mean that something has to be wrong. Players are judged as guilty until proven innocent.

    That doesn't mean that i'm condoning this type of behaviour, or defending the acts of match-fixing. There appears to be a history, and a few offenders (not just being CHN). But there could be lots more behind the scenes that we don't know.
     
  10. LD rules!

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    LYB isn't on twitter though :(
     
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    Don't do that! This is all Denmark's fault this in the first place! :D If Juhl and Pedersen hadn't beaten the number 2 chinese pair none of this would have happened. :p
     
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    I know...fb and twitter are ban in Chn

    Look harder for source ;) not that he will say anything though...
     
  13. kwun

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    let's ban all 4 pairs and then let TQ/ZYL battle Juhl/Pedersen again.
     
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    Taufik: "... like... maybe Lin Dan will do the same when we meet..."
     
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    He cannot afford to have one in the first place. Otherwise he would have had plenty of explanations to do week in, week out.
     
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    This is in the guardian newspaper tomorrow...


    The women's doubles competition at London 2012 descended into farce and scandal at Wembley Arena as two pairs appeared to deliberately start playing to lose.
    Chinese top seeds Wang Xiaoli and Yu Yang and the South Koreans, Jung Kyung-eun and Kim Ha-na, were booed off after an extraordinary match in which players regularly served into the net or hit wide apparently on purpose.
    Both pairs had already qualified for the last 16 and their actions appeared to be an attempt to manipulate the final standings in Group A.
    The reasons for both pairs wishing to do this were unclear, but by ultimately losing the match, the Chinese now cannot play their compatriots and second seeds Tian Qing and Zhao Yunlei until the final.
    Tian and Zhao were sent off their natural path to the final as second seeds after losing to Denmark's Kamilla Rytter Juhl and Christinna Pedersen earlier in the day. The downside to losing is that they could face a theoretically tougher quarter-final.
    The Korean pair left court without speaking to waiting reporters to explain the reasons for their involvement in the fiasco after the 23-minute match.
    Yu claimed she wanted to ease up ahead of the knockout phase.
    She said: "Actually, these opponents really were strong. This is the first time we've played them and tomorrow it's the knockout rounds, so we've already qualified and we wanted to have more energy for the knockout rounds.
    "Really, it's not necessary to go out hard again when the knockout rounds are tomorrow."
    The Korean pair won the match 21-14 21-11. The longest rally in the first game was four strokes.
    Match referee Thorsten Berg came on to court at one point to warn the players.
    The farce continued later in the evening when another Korean pair, the third seeds Ha Jung-eun and Kim Min-jung, appeared to start playing up against Indonesia's Meiliana Jauhari and Greysia Polii.
    Both pairs had also already qualified for the next stage from Group C, the connection with the earlier incident being that the pool winners would play Wang and Yu next.
    The Korean pairs would play each other in the quarter-finals if Ha and Kim lost.
    Berg returned to court and brandished the black card, which means disqualification, but after protests from the Indonesians it was rescinded and the match resumed.
    Paisan Rangsikitpho, a member of the Badminton World Federation's technical committee, said the governing body was aware of what had happened. "We will have a real discussion tonight to see what has happened, but I have to get all the facts."
    Whatever the reasons for the bizarre spectacle, it is certain to spark debate about the decision to introduce a round-robin stage as opposed to holding a straight knockout tournament.
    The spotlight will also be cast once again on the Chinese, who dominate world badminton but have been accused of manipulation before.
    Petya Nedelcheva, the Bulgarian women's singles 15th seed, who was playing on an adjacent court at the time of the first incident, was forthright in her general criticism of China. "China control everything," she said. "I don't know who controlled the match to lose but if it is China again, they did it so many times last year, they didn't play against each other in 20 matches. They do what they want."
    Nedelcheva's comments are supported by figures compiled by online magazine Badzine earlier this year showing that of the 99 all-Chinese matches played in major tournaments in 2011, 20 were walkovers.
     
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    Yes they should be. This needs to stop now. Leaving it to be will give others the green light to do the same in the future.
     
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    why not ban that 4/5 pairs (depend on you see jpn wd lost is purpose or not) and give place to other pair that "victimized" or the pair that play truthfully?
     
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    Yes, Badminton should be kicked out of Olympic because the competition format changed so much and a lot of chaos in Badminton community especially in this forum!
     

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