Lee Chong Wei ( 李宗伟 )

What Formatting ? There is nothing wrong in how I present my post.

And secondly, not one of my posts are inaccurate. All of them are supported by links and none of your complaints have stood right so far. The Malay Mail Online article which you remarked 'a rehash' was in fact the short version of long interview given by Lee. The other day you deleted the 'Doubles coach remarks' was tried and tested by Google Translate and supported by link.Thank You.

 

whoa, not cool !

 

I thought Fox's way of editing was funny and entertaining (when not too brutal!)

 

There is no further drama. 3 courts better than none and BAM got LCW back training from today. Sport minister and BAM said they will support and provide anything for him for his title shot he want (World Championship 2017 and Asian Games 2018). Morten keep his job. He's nurturing junior and eyeing Olympic. Each to their own agenda.

As long as they stay professional with job, there is no need to have bromance with each other. They want titles, no dramas. That should be what they work toward for.

All is good.

 

IMHO, I'd much prefer, in the name of freedom of expression, that our moderators err on the side of liberalism (be liberal-minded) than on the side of caution.

Of course this human right is not absolute but subject to "common limitations to freedom of speech relate (sic) to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury." - extract from Wikipedia.

In my personal opinion, the deleted Nine-Tailed Fox's posts did not cross the line and I believe most forummers here are mature enough to handle it appropriately.

 

That's what the BAM president hoped for. As long as the two go about their business without stepping on each other's toes, it's an uneasy truce, but, so what , who cares ? Anyway, if the temporary solution can keep the peace for long enough until LCW finally retires, it is good to go for the time being.

 

I like to put forth an alternative fact to "alternative facts"..

"Alternative facts is a term in law to describe inconsistent sets of facts put forth by the same party in a court given that there is plausible evidence to support both alternatives.[1][2] The term is also used to describe competing facts for the two sides of the case."​

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts_(law)

 

Oh, all right, I've heard and read about it - Alternative Facts - esp during and after the US Presidential election.

But, pardon me for asking, how does that invalidate my calling for freedom of expression as a human right subject to the limitations I alerted to ? The two are not mutually exclusive.

If you'd allow me, we may not like the way Nine-Tailed Fox presented the articles he posted with his own emphases or implications but we can point it out or opposed it without censoring it or, worse still, deleting the entire post(s). I should think most of us are discerning enough to differentiate his own opinions expressed by quoting from the articles and the context from which they appeared as he had provided the source(s) with citations. We may even accuse him of making misleading statements or misrepresenting the facts if we can point to the relevant article(s) he posted where the original or intended meaning is presented. Perhaps he misread or misinterpreted the author's meaning but that's not the same as coming up with alternative facts, deliberately.

The existence of 'Alternative Facts' is an alarming phenomenon, I can't help but be reminded of another phenomenon, the phrase " Post-truth era". http://www.ralphkeyes.com/the-post-truth-era/
" In the post-truth era, borders blur between truth and lies, honesty and dishonesty, fiction and nonfiction. Deceiving others becomes a challenge, a game, and ultimately a habit. "

I must say your point based on alternative fact is a very interesting one, esp for those who come across the phrase 'alternative fact' for the first time would do well to understand what it is and learn not to accept uncritically whatever is reported on mainstream media at face value without fact-checking or delving deeper into it by questioning its basis and asking for evidence as to its veracity.

Thanks for edifying us.

 

no future vs the future
hard to choose really

 

Obviously, Cheung's use of the term 'alternative fact' refers to "creating your own 'fact'" without regard to the truth, that is falsehood.

 

Pardon me if I'm wrong, I thought you mean " not hard to choose, really".

The problem is LCW is still Malaysia's best and only hope , even if only for another year or so. Therefore in that sense, you're right, hard to choose, which explains why the BAM president came up with that tricky makeshift solution to have the best of both worlds, hopefully.

 

It’s not so hard for someone with foresight, vision for the future, knowledge or just plain common sense. But they are not so common with the certain association that concerned.

 

I see, point taken.

 

Things settled. Let's just be done with it.

 

It looks like Lee Chong Wei IS playing the All England 2017. The most recent M and Q report (released today) shows that he has not withdrawn.
The withdrawal deadline for the All England 2017 was yesterday.
Click this link to see the BWF Report:
http://system.bwfbadminton.com/uplo...n 4 (Updated Monday, 13th February 2017).xlsx

 

Oh, so now it is reference that has concerned you so strikingly.

Fact : The reference was spot on. The reason you deleted my post was because I didn't attach translation.

The reason I didn't copy/paste from Google translate is the reason very famous that it is not perfect and grammatical head ache.

So, there was no issue about reference at all. In your head, you assumed that I am misleading people. Fair enough.

~ Via Google Translate

Kuala Lumpur: Technical Director of Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) Morten Frost Hansen should be responsible and take the first action to resolve the crisis involving himself with national singles ace Datuk Lee Chong Wei.

The former doubles Yap Kim Hock said he is following the fiasco involving both individuals important in the main body.

The hope is that the two sides resolve the crisis well.


"Of course Frost as chairman to be responsible. The reason I think this issue has been going on for almost a week.

"So, Frost should take the first step to solve it.

"The way in which he wanted to finish the apology was all up to Frost. Importantly, this issue should be resolved soon, "he said.


What my post read :

Former doubles coach says Frost should apologise to Lee to solve the matter.



Now, Please expound how I am DELIBERATELY MISLEADING people.

 

It looks like Lee Chong Wei IS playing the All England 2017. The most recent M and Q report (released today) shows that he has not withdrawn.
The withdrawal deadline for the All England 2017 was yesterday.
Click this link to see the BWF Report:
http://system.bwfbadminton.com/uplo...n 4 (Updated Monday, 13th February 2017).xlsx

 

Nothing to lose really... he messed up last year so this round even if he misses, the calculation points should stay status quo. But as for the rest of the circus participating, if he misses out he will slide in ranking for sure.

 

I know but so many newspapers are saying that he is not going to play.
e.g http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017/02/06/chong-wei-injured-will-miss-all-england-tournament/