Yonex ASTROX 77 (2017)

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  1. steve088

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    Thanks! It's a good reference for an idea.
    However, the matrix sometimes doesn't match in reality. For instance, many chose VT70ETN instead of the 80 because they want a less HH racket. But the 70 and 80 sit at same HH level in the matrix.
     
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    VT80 > LDF > AX77 > D10
     
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    Unfortunately matrices are generally rubbish. I can tell you for a fact that the 80 and 70 are most certainly not at the same level of head heavy. The 70ETN is only slightly-moderately head heavy depending on the parts you throw on it.

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    Thanks!
     
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    Agree! btw, anyone played Z-Strike before? from the (sometimes useless!) information, it seems like an moderately more HH and a bit more stiff arcsaber 11. How is it in reality on court? Good for double?
     
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    Using it right now. It's definitely nowhere near as head heavy as the matrix suggests. It feels more like a balanced racquet if anything. It's very stiff though but great for doubles if you can handle it.
     
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    Correct on both. It is moderately more head heavy. Definitely stiffer too. If you felt that the ARC11 shaft was a bit soft and flexed easily for a stiff shaft, the DZS definitely has a harder feel to the flex. Fantastic racket tbh, only downside of it is the smaller head frame. That would give some trouble in timing especially with the fast pace of doubles. But for course if you compare it to a VT80 it's not even close.

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    thanks for your feedback.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback. Sounds good to me so far, this DZS!
    You mean VT80 has an even smaller frame and stiffer shalf than DZS? I heard people saying VT80 is even harder to play than the ZF2 for its HH and stiffness that tired their wrist faster on doubles game.
     
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    No no. I was describing the DZS. In some ways yes, the VT80 is harder to play than the ZFII . Decent stiffness and big bulky head and frame profile. Compared to the streamlining and progress they heaped on to the ZFII.

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    Ya, ZF2 has been a star since then until today, probably one of the longest period popular racket made by Yonex (sharing the fame with arcsaber 11, maybe).

    Now the new AX88D and S Yonex specifically designed for doubles. From specs, maybe you are right, the D may suits me better. In fact, I almost never play with a medium flex racket (ie. AX77) in recent years, I cannot imagine how that would feel. The D10 and Arcsaber11 already made me feel a little over flex.

    Wondering how the AX77 flex level when comparing to D10 and Arcsaber11? Mainly about anything other than smashing. Putting a hard string (ie. BG80) sometimes helps to increase the stiff response feel though, haha!

    Anyone use BG80P before? I tried BG80 and BG66UM, wondering if the BG80P sits in between regarding hard/soft feel.
     
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    Imo 80p is just a slightly softer version of 80. If you like hard strings there's no reason to get 80p
     
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    BG80 is too hard for me, and BG66UM is great but sometimes feel like to experience something difference. ;)
     
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    Let me be the first of many to recommend you G-Tone 5.
     
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    Shame it sucks past 28lbs

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    Then ZM62F...
     
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    I'd rather no.1 then. It runs less for me.

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    Somehow No. 1 is too slippery for me, not enough texture for control
     
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    I pull 30/32lbs. Wire bite

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    There is no need to try Bg80P, IMO it is never a good string at all. I can make a simple comparison for you.

    Hitting feel - Bg80 very hard, Bg66u medium to hard, Bg80P quite soft and abit slippery

    Hitting sound - Bg80 best metallic ping, Bg66u crispy and loud, Bg80P quite dull and more to mute side which no where near both Bg80 and Bg66u

    Repulsion - Bg80 good enough compared to thinner string, Bg66u excellent especially freshly strung, however just for less than 2 weeks usage, Bg80P very less of it, quite soft and string tend to '"run" frequently

    Tension retention - Bg80 hold the best at least for me, Bg66u not good at all as it is described as "tournament string", Bg80P bad, just really bad

    All these strings are strung before with my Astrox77 at 27lbs~29lbs.
     

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