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Discussion in 'Badminton Rackets / Equipment' started by clearng, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. TigerSmash

    TigerSmash Regular Member

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    I’m receiving one tomorrow, strung with bg80 @ 29lbs. Primarily a 3u user but will give it a one hour test on Friday, can share my thoughts.


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    Haven’t swung it yet but feels fast and not too heavy. colourway wise can’t go wrong with a white racket with two tone accents. There is a spelling mistake with ‘specialist’ but not a big deal!


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  3. Carbonex_7

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    My advice for putting up such a high tension is to rotate the grommets on every restring and change them after the second time. Apacs factory grommets are below average quality and wore out pretty fast @28 and above. I received constant feedback from friends that strung Honor @28 have the string snapped in one week or so.
    LOL, after the Etra Power fiasco, they fumble again?? Can't wait to read your review. The cosmetic design looks great.
     
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    poor mans victor tkf? at least looking at the frame and being even sharper at the top, how is the stiffness, is it very flexible?
     
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    Fiasco indeed afaic. Good thing I decided to have an AVP that somehow still salvaged my trust in the APACS brand

    H800 EP now up for sale here

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    My tkf is strung at 27/29 victor one piece pattern, don’t know what the shop did on the assailant other than it’s 28lbs lol. I would say the shaft is stiff, not quite extra stiff, 91g strung with plastic handle wrap.


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    so it seems that tkf head is not that huge after all, and assailant one is at least 240mm long...
     
  8. TigerSmash

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    My first impressions: being a 3u user, the weight of the assailant was good being on the higher spectrum of 4u. There is a slight sword profile, and the frame cuts through the air fast. Upon hitting the shuttle, the shot feels crisp and shaft is stiff enough to make the racket feel decent and stable. The sweet spot is big and quite forgiving. Easy to generate power, clears with ease, and smooth for fast exchanges. Defending is a breeze, and smashing , there is the presence of speed and decent power, the frame is concise and has good feedback. If I were to relate it to a racket that’s similar, n7-2 (that lighter L.natsir model). The racket is definitely catered more for doubles. The racket doesn’t feel too cheap also, why apacs didn’t make this in 3u I don’t know why. It would give n7-2 a good fight, and I think I would buy it over n7-2 if it was made in 3u. Anyway, there’s my personal opinion, a decent 4u racket.


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    This came into my mind when i picked up my long forgotten JS12 this morning, the spec and frame design sure looks like the Assailant pro and they both are made in Taiwan......do you have friends that own a JS12 that can do a comparison?
     
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    I cut my Honor 800 EP shorter by 3mm to make it 672 mm long. Racket weight drop from 85.25g to 84.86g and BP shifted from 314mm to 316mm, felt good on training session yesterday. Initial feeling was quite similar to my Yonex Astrox 88S 4U, even the specs are quite close to each other. Swing speed is a big improvement, smashing power may be the same but flat drive is a breeze now. I used to feel H800 is a bit lagging behind in quick exchange but now it's fast. How much the new modification affects my gameplay remains to be tested and I will come back with review later.
     
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    How does the modified Honor 800EP compare to Honor 200?

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    That sounds like working well with you now with your HP800. Good job.

    2 questions: 1) How exactly did you manage to shorten it by 3 mm? 2) what's the point of doing so if you can just achieve the same desired characteristics of the racket (if not better) by just using another one with similar or better specs?



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  13. Razor-BladE

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    I'm looking to try a couple of new Apacs rackets. I currently play with AVP, Lethal 110, Bravesword LYD and 09N. As I've been improving, my doubles games have gotten quicker and flatter, so I've been enjoying the better manoeuvrability of the Lethal 110 and BS09N more than the others. There's nothing wrong with them, I just want some new rackets to play with.

    What would be some good suggestions? Would the new Honor 200 be a good one to try? Any others?

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    1. Remove the grip and butt cap, cut 3mm from the end of the wooden handle, put back the butt cap and grip, viola!..........Ideally I would like to shorten the shaft by 3mm, you need to have a new replacement handle for the job so i took the easy way out by just cutting the handle.
    2. If you have followed my thread long enough, we bulk purchased 8 Honors, 6 of them are 800s. The 800s live up to the billing in smashing power but lags behind in maneuverability, the longer shaft design (compared to H200) with medium stiffness does not add up very well, a stiffer shaft H800 would be much better spec IMO. In physics, with the same amount of force applied, shorter shaft increase the rotational torque. So the mod works out perfectly, it retains the smashing power while increase the maneuverability of a very head heavy racket. Fully tested out last night from me and my friend. I managed to lift 4 continuous power smashes to the back of the court and on the 5th smash I counter attack with and forehand drive. I am a happy H800 owner now.
     
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    Honor 200 is one of the best defensive control racket Apacs can offer.
    The best all rounder racket has to be Tantrum 200II/300II (out of Malaysia) but it is stiff, if you prefer something less stiff Lethal 60II is your choice. If you enjoy L110 more, then go with tantrum 200II, if you prefer BS09 or LYD more then L60II.
    Both Tantrum and Lethal come in 3U spec and Honors are 4U.
     
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    H200 on asteroid. H200 still have the edge on the control aspect.
     
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    I like the idea of Honor 200, that's definitely on my list.

    Is the T200II much different to the T200 because I had that but sold it on because although it was generally great, found it a bit slow/heavy defensively and on quick drive exchanges.
     
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    The only difference is shaft diameter, T200II has a slimmer shaft with 0.67mm compared to its predecessor 0.70mm. So it is faster.
     
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    There is an APACS rep in the north Bristol area (also covers Gloucester/Worcester/Birmingham/Portsmouth) who runs occasional demo days in addition to his coaching and various academies. I can pass on details if you like. Essentially anything you can buy from apacs-badminton.co.uk he can supply with discount.

    I got a Lethal 10 just to see if I liked a headlight fast racket similar to a Victor bravesword/jetspeed frame but ended up liking it so much I got a second. I got an AVP years ago but it had an odd vibration so sold it on.
     
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    I see many Apacs racket can be strung to 38Lbs while so many Yonex/Victor/Lining usually are only up to 24-28Lbs. This is a huge difference. I don't understand why the difference is that much while Apacs provide much cheaper price. Are they actually equal and Yonex just undervalue their tension? Do Apacs overvalue for competitive advantage? Is Apacs frame beefier?
     

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